unknown flowering shrub

[Bep van Pelt]

Please does someone know the name of this shrub??

Nepal - Janakpur (NP)

21-10-2018

Underway from Gumdel to Kyama in Number valley at about 2400m

Along the path

One photo overview, one photo habitus of the plant

Elizabeth

[Saroj Kasaju]

Lobelia nicotianifolia Roth

Thank you 

Saroj Kasaju

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Bep ji.

Keys from Flora of China are as below: 

22 (21)	Leaves glabrous abaxially; hypanthium glabrous; calyx lobes entire.		11 L. seguinii
+	Leaves sparsely hispidulous abaxially; hypanthium scaberulose; calyx lobes denticulate.		12 L. doniana

In view, this plant is Lobelia doniana Skottsb., which is a syn. of Lobelia nicotianifolia Roth as per Catalogue of life;

Checklist of Nepal, only reports this one as Lobelia seguinii var. doniana (Skottsb.) E. Wimm.

On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 14:38, Bep van Pelt <bep.en....@gmail.com> wrote:

Isn’t it  Lobelia seguinii

http://nc.biodiv.tw/bbs/showthread.php?t=8428??

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Bep ji,

I do not understand what you want to you ?

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From: Bep van Pelt <bep.en....@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 15:36
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:344476] unknown flowering shrub

To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

If you say that the Checklist of Nepal, only reports this one as Lobelia seguinii var. doniana (Skottsb.) E. Wimm

then it cannot be L. seguinii.

However, my photos were part of a much bigger shrub and what I find of photos of L. Donna show a rather mall plant with a compact flowerhead.

In the link I sent the photos were much more like L. seguinii, especially this one. As is the photo of the flowerhead.

So, I don’t know….

http://nc.biodiv.tw/bbs/showthread.php?t=8428??

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[J.M. Garg]

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From: Bep van Pelt <bep.en....@gmail.com>
Date: Sun 8 Mar, 2020, 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:344476] unknown flowering shrub
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

I would be very pleased to hear your opinion about my photos and the comparison with the two pictures from http://nc.biodiv.tw/bbs/showthread.php?t=8428 

My photos are more alike L.seguinii

Bep

[J.M. Garg]

I will go with Lobelia seguinii var. doniana (Skottsb.) E. Wimm.

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On Sun 8 Mar, 2020, 8:06 PM Bep van Pelt, <bep.en....@gmail.com> wrote:

I would be very pleased to hear your opinion about my photos and the comparison with the two pictures from http://nc.biodiv.tw/bbs/showthread.php?t=8428 

My photos are more alike L.seguinii

Bep

[J.M. Garg]

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From: Bep van Pelt <bep.en....@gmail.com>
Date: Mon 9 Mar, 2020, 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:344476] unknown flowering shrub
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Thanks a lot!

[Bep van Pelt]

thanks a lot

[JM Garg]

Taking it as L. pyramidalis as per discussions at Lobelia seguinii var. doniana (Skottsb.) E. Wimm. ??