Hooghly : Polygonum serrulatum Lagasc. ; Boiss . Fl. Orient. iv. 1028? (FBI.v.38) ?

[surajit koley]

This is common, possibly annual, in ditches or marshes. Leaves subseesile, may be cordate, margin possibly serrulate (or with stiff hairs?) as can be seen in the 4th pic.; ochreal cilia equal to tube length.

[surajit koley]

Yes, I think the ID is correct.

Regards

[Ritesh Kumar Choudhary]

Dear Surajit Ji,

Thanks for this post. I think  you need to recheck the ID for this plant. 

The Plant List mentions Persicaria decipiens (R.Br.) K.L. Wilson as the accepted name for Polygonum serrulatum Lag.

Moreover, your photos do not match with the images available on net:

http://www.zambiaflora.com/speciesdata/image-display.php?species_id=121850&image_id=3

http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/speciesdata/species.php?species_id=121850

Regards,

Ritesh.

[surajitkoley]

Good morning Ritesh Ji

Missed your feedback yesterday, didn't receive email. Yes, I have seen the accepted name in The Plant List. But, I have deliberately used the name/entry in FBI or Bengal Plants or in Botany of Bihar and Orissa for reason I will explain eventually.

"Perianth color is variable and taxonomically less important (atleast in Persicaria)"

I think I can ignore what FoZ shows or displays. Please note :

1. As per FBI/BP/BoBO perianth colour white in Indian plants
   
2. raceme stout short
3. leaves subsesiile and glabrous with slightly strigillose (or glabrous) margin
4. cillia not longer than ochrea tube

Thank you

Regards

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Yes, I think the ID is correct. Regards

Surajit

Thanks for this post. I think  you need to recheck the ID for this plant.  The Plant List mentions Persicaria decipiens (R.Br.) K.L. Wilson as the accepted name for Polygonum serrulatum Lag. Moreover, your photos do not match with the images available on net: http://www.zambiaflora.com/speciesdata/image-display.php?species_id=121850&image_id=3 http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/speciesdata/species.php?species_id=121850 Regards, Ritesh.

Missed your feedback yesterday, didn't receive email. Yes, I have seen the accepted name in The Plant List. But, I have deliberately used the name/entry in FBI or Bengal Plants or in Botany of Bihar and Orissa for reason I will explain eventually.

"Perianth color is variable and taxonomically less important (atleast in Persicaria)" I think I can ignore what FoZ shows or displays. Please note : As per FBI/BP/BoBO perianth colour white in Indian plants raceme stout short leaves subsesiile and glabrous with slightly strigillose (or glabrous) margin cillia not longer than ochrea tube Thank you Regards

Surajit

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[surajit koley]

I agree that it doesn't look like the one in FoZ, but at the same time neither the other uploads in eFI, except one which is not clear, looks like the one in FoZ !!!

There is an interesting account, on Polygonum serrulatum Lagasc., in Haines.

FoP has its say - http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242100108.

Perhaps, as FoP says, following taxa also need to be taken account of -

1. http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242100101
   
2. http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242339606
   
3. http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242100090
   

There is ample provision to get confused by the descriptions in the above links.

However, attached here some more photographs, that I think of the same plant species, recorded elsewhere in some other time.

Thank you

Regards

[J.M. Garg]

[surajit koley]

The ID is wrong.

A doc can be found on Indian species - http://www.cibtech.org/J%20Plant%20Sciences/PUBLICATIONS/2014/Vol-3-No-2/JPS-018-013-SRIVASTAVA-FAMILY-INDIA.pdf

There is no Polygonum serrulatum Lagasc. in India, instead it is non Lag., synonym of Polygonum longisetum deBruyn and I am not sure if my plant or those of eFI can be same.

It is getting very very complicated.

Thank you

Regards

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Polygonum species- Hooghly 

After all the discussion I think it should be Persicaria longiseta

Persicaria longiseta in Flora of Pakistan @ efloras.org

Group discussion at

Hooghly : Polygonum serrulatum Lagasc. ; Boiss . Fl. Orient. iv. 1028? (FBI.v.38) ? (google.com) 

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Polygonum species- Hooghly 

After all the discussion I think it should be Persicaria longiseta

Persicaria longiseta in Flora of Pakistan @ efloras.org

Group discussion at

Hooghly : Polygonum serrulatum Lagasc. ; Boiss . Fl. Orient. iv. 1028? (FBI.v.38) ? (google.com) 

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding for validation as Persicaria longiseta or otherwise pl. 

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This is common, possibly annual, in ditches or marshes. Leaves subseesile, may be cordate, margin possibly serrulate (or with stiff hairs?) as can be seen in the 4th pic.; ochreal cilia equal to tube length.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Persicaria barbata (L.) H. Hara ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Yes, appears more closer as per images at Persicaria barbata

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

[surajit koley]

Thank you.Sir for the updated id.

With regards,

Surajit Koley

[surajit koley]

Thank you.Sir

With regards,

Surajit Koley

On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 at 16:26, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Saroj Kasaju]

My pleasure !

Thank you Surjit Ji 

Saroj Kasaju