SK669 24 JUL-2017:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location: Shivapuri National Park, Nepal

Altitude: 7500 ft.

Date: 22 July 2017

Lysimachia ?? Did not fine any match .

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Yes. Pl. check comparative images in efi site. 

[Rahul Sharma]

Please check Lysimachia congestiflora 

http://www.dnp.go.th/botany/plantdetail.aspx?monthno=201312&smonthname=December&slanguage=eng

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Rahul ji. 

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Please check Lysimachia congestiflora  http://www.dnp.go.th/botany/plantdetail.aspx?monthno=201312&smonthname=December&slanguage=eng

-- from Rahul ji

Lysimachia species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net)

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[Ashwini Bhatia]

Lysimachia japonica?

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[Rahul Sharma]

I do agree with Ashwini Bhatia Ji 

https://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Japanese%20Yellow%20Loosestrife.html

Rahul Sharma

Research Fellow,

Biosystematics Lab,

University School of Environment Management,

Guru Gobind Singh Indraprastha University, New Delhi

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Rahul ji and Ashwini ji. 

[Nidhan Singh]

Yes, please also see https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/nwFMXDmvqWM

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Nidhan ji. 

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear all,

Though the opinions have been given by more 

knowledgeable persons I am still a bit skeptical 

about its ID though I may be wrong.

1. Filaments connate not like L. japonica.

2. Altitude not matching with L. japonica.

3. L. japonica not listed in Nepal.

As such I guess it is more matching to L. congestiflora 

as suggested earlier by Rahul ji or some other sp. 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Rahul Sharma]

Thankyou SAROJ JI 

Rahul Sharma

Research Fellow,

Biosystematics Lab,

University School of Environment Management,

Guru Gobind Singh Indraprastha University, New Delhi

[Ashwini Bhatia]

Dear Saroj ji,

Apologies for a late response. A few online guides give the filaments as connate or adnate for L. japonica. Also, I have photographed this plant till 6500ft and may have seen it beyond that as well here in Dharamshala, Himachal Pradesh. Of course I may have been misidentifying the plant here too and hope your quest sheds more light on the matter.

With best regards,

Ashwini

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Ashwini ji. 

[Saroj Kasaju]

L. deltoidea and L. japonica same?

Different webs says differently.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Thanks, Ashwini ji. 

Thankyou SAROJ JI 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Thanks, Nidhan ji. 

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Catalogue of life & The Plant List Ver 1.1 based on Tropicos, say they are different.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Shall we take it as L. japonica ??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

I think that was the earlier conclusion. 

[J.M. Garg]

I am reviewing all related posts in view of Ashwini ji's post at Lysimachia debilis ABJUL2019/01

I do not find the key character of Plants red to black glandular punctate or striate as per keys in Flora of China

I think we should we keep it as Lysimachia japonica subsp. japonica (Plants epunctate or translucent glandular punctate as per keys in Flora of China) 

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[Saroj Kasaju]

5. LYSIMACHIA L. by E. Aitken

Annual or perennial, erect or decumbent herbs. Leaves simple, entire, alternate or opposite, sometimes on the same plant, base attenuate, often extending along winged petiole. Flowers borne singly in leaf axils, or in racemes or terminal clusters, usually 5-merous, occasionally 4-6-merous. Calyx divided almost to base. Corolla rotate or funnel-shaped, lobes connate below middle. Stamens attached at base of corolla lobes, included or sometimes exserted; anthers dehiscing by slits, rarely pores. Capsule ovoid or subglobose, 5-valved or burst- ing irregularly, many-seeded.

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1. Flowers i crowded in racemes or terminal clusters, (sometimes also with 1-2 axillary flowers) ............................................................ 2 + Flowers axillary, not crowded into racemes or clusters, (sometimes with small terminal cluster) .......................................................... 5

2. Leaves lanceolate or narrowly elliptic; racemes long and slender, leafless 3 + Leaves broadly ovate; racemes dense, leafy .................................. 4

3. Leaves elliptic, 3-9cm; petiole 10-30mm ..................... 3. L. decurrens + Leaves elliptic to lanceolate, 0.8-2cm; petiole up to 10mm 4. L. lobelioides

4. Leaves 0.5-l.5cm long; pedicels 2-15mm; corolla 4-7mm long
1. L. prolifera

+ Leaves 1-3.5cm long; pedicels 1-3mm; corolla 7-10mm long
9. L. congestiflora

5. Leaves 1-3cm long; pedicels 2-l0(-20)mm ................................. 6

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Leaves 1.5-7.5cm long; pedicels 10-40mm .................................. 8

Leaves alternate; flowers pale pink or white ............ 2. L chenopodioides Leaves opposite; flowers yellow ............................................... 7

Plants puberulous throughout; pedicels short, 2-6mm; corolla 6-12mm long 8. L. japoniea Plants softly hirsute throughout; pedicels long, 5-10(-20)mm; corolla 3-6mm long .................................................... 9. L. ferruginea

Leaves broadly ovate; calyx 6-12mm; corolla 8-15mm long . 5. L. evalvis Leaves elliptic to lanceolate; calyx 3-6mm; corolla 4.5-8mm long . . . . . . .. 9

Leaves 1.5-4.5cm; pedicels 10-20mm; calyx lobes lanceolate with minute glands ...........................................................6. L. alternifolia Leaves 2-7cm; pedicels 20-40mm; calyx lobes ovate, without glands

7. L. Iaxa

L. prolifera Klatt

Stems decumbent, up to 25cm, often rooting at nodes, puberulous. Leaves opposite or alternate, broadly ovate or suborbicular, 0.5-1.5 x 0.5-l.5cm, usually with glandular streaks, subacute or obtuse, base rounded, abruptly narrowed into winged petiole, 5-8mm. Flowers 4-5-merous, in terminal leafy racemes; pedicels 2-10(-l5)mm. Calyx dark pink, 3-4mm; teeth linear, with few glandular streaks. Corolla pale pink or mauve, 4-7mm long; lobes spathul- ate, without glandular streaks. Stamens slightly shorter than corolla lobes. Capsule broadly ovoid, c 2mm.

5. LYSIMACHIA

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151. PRIMULACEAE

Bhutan: S - Gaylegphug district, C - Punakha district (Pele La) and Tongsa district (Yuto La), N - Upper Bumthang Chu district (Shimitang) and Upper Kulong Chu district (Lao); Darjeeling: Batasia to Palmajua, Rinchingpong, Sandakhphu and Tanglu; Sikkim: Megu, Singalila Range, Lachen, Lagyap and Chiya Bhanjang; Chumbi. Tracksides in forests, (1500-)2740-4265m. March-July.

2. L. chenopodioides Watt
Stems 10-40cm, usually much branched from base, glabrous or puberulous.

Leaves alternate, sometimes almost opposite, elliptic-lanceolate, 1-3 x 0.4-lcm, acuminate, minutely gland-dotted, base attenuate on winged petiole, 10-15mm. Flowers borne singly in leaf axils, sessile, or pedicels up to 4 (occasionally 7)mm, forming a loose leafy raceme along stems. Calyx c 4mm, teeth linear- lanceolate, acuminate, with reddish glandular streaks. Corolla pale pink or white, 4-4.5mm long; lobes spathulate, each with 3-4 glandular streaks. Stamens included. Capsule globose, c 3mm diameter, 5-valved.

Bhutan: S - Deothang district (Khaling), C - Thimphu district (Pangri Zampa, Paro and Tsalimaphe), Punakha district (Samtenang and Shenganga) and Bumthang district (Tangphomrong). Ditch sides and paddy-fields, 1800- 2600m. April-August.

3. L. decurrens Forster f.; L. javanica Blume, L. multiflora Duby
Stems erect, 50-70cm, narrowly winged, glabrous. Leaves opposite and alter- nate on same plant, elliptic, 3-9 x l-3cm, glabrous, with scattered, blackish glandular spots and streaks; base attenuate and narrowly decurrent on winged petiole 10-30mm. Flowers in slender leafless racemes; pedicels 5-10mm. Calyx 3-4mm, teeth lanceolate with 4 reddish glandular streaks. Corolla white, 3-4mm long; lobes spathulate, usually without glandular streaks. Stamens 2 short, 3 longer, exserted from corolla mouth. Capsule subglobose, 3-4mm diameter,

dehiscing irregularly.
Bhutan: S - Chukka district (Raidak Valley) and Deothang district (Diu Ri

river), C - Mongar district (Bagha La and Zimgang) and Tashigang district (Thrimsing); Darjeeling; Sikkim: Tista Valley. Footpaths and gravelly stream- sides, 270-l800(-2430)m. May, June.

4. L. lobelioides Wall.; L. secunda D. Don. Fig. 56g&h.
Stems decumbent or ascending, 10-30(-45)cm, glabrous. Leaves opposite or

alternate, elliptic to lanceolate, 0.8-2 x 0.5-lcm, acute, base attenuate and decurrent on winged petiole up to 10mm, glabrous, with scattered, glandular spots, mostly near margins. Flowers in slender racemes; 5- or 6-merous; pedicels up to 10mm. Calyx 2.5-3mm, teeth lanceolate, glandular-streaked. Corolla white or pink, 4-6mm long; lobes oblanceolate, apparently without glands. Stamens included at first, becoming exserted. Capsule subglobose, c 1.5-2mm diameter, 5-valved.

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Bhutan: C - Thimphu and Punakha districts, N - Upper Mo Chu district. Damp flushes and streamsides, 910-3660m. May-July.

The record of L. obovate Hook.f. from Dochu La (71) is based on animmature specimen of this species.

5. L. evalvis Wall.
Stems erect or creeping, up to 75cm, glabrous. Leaves alternate, broadly ovate

to elliptic, 2-7.5 x 1-3.5cm, acuminate, glabrous, apparently without glands, intramarginal vein present, base abruptly attenuate; petiole up to 20mm, nar- rowly winged. Flowers solitary, axillary, on pedicels 15-40cm, forming loose, leafy racemes. Calyx 6-12mm, teeth ovate or lanceolate, acuminate, eglandular. Corolla yellow, 8-l1(-15)mm long; lobes lanceolate or elliptic, acute, eglandu- lar. Stamens included; anthers larger than other species, c 5mm, forming a loose cone, dehiscing by apical pores; filaments very short. Capsule subglobose, 4-8mm, diameter, bursting irregularly.

Bhutan: S - Phuntsholing district (Kamji), Chukka district and Deothang district (Narfong, 117); Darjeeling; Sikkim: Zongri, Tolung valley, Lachen. On wet mossy rocks at margins of forest, 920-2440m. May-July.

6. L alternifolia Wall.; L. tetragona D.Don, L. glandulosa Edgeworth
Stems erect or creeping, up to 40cm, ridged, sparsely pubescent. Leaves alternate, narrowly elliptic to lanceolate, 1.5-4.5 x 0.7-2cm, acuminate, scat- tered coarse pubescence on both surfaces, minutely glandular, base attenuate to winged petiole up to 7mm. Flowers solitary, axillary, on pedicels 10-20mm, forming loose, leafy racemes. Calyx 5-6mm, teeth lanceolate, acuminate, scat- tered with minute reddish glands. Corolla yellow, 4.5-5mm long; lobes obovate, with minute reddish glands. Stamens included. Capsule subglobose, c 4mm

diameter, 5-valved.
Bhutan: S - Chukka district (Marichong), C - Tongsa district (Tongsa to

Changkha); Darjeeling: Tukvar; Sikkim: Thinglen, Kalej Khola, Rishi, Rathong Chhu Valley. On mossy rocks, 1060-l250m. July-August.

7. L. laxa Baudo; L. ramosa Duby
Similar to L. alrernifolia, but stems to 60cm, i erect; leaves elliptic to

lanceolate, 2-7 x 0.6-2cm, acuminate, thinly puberulous on upper surface, glabrous beneath, without glands; petiole up to 10mm; pedicels 20-40mm; calyx 3-4mm, teeth ovate, without glands; corolla 5-8mm long, lobes oblong, without glands; capsule c 5mm diameter.

Bhutan: S - Deothang district (Narfong, 117); Darjeeling: Pankhabari; Sikkim: Gangtok, Namchi, Rungbee and Sitong. Ditch sides, l520—2440m. June-September.

8. L. japoniea Thunberg; L. debilis Wall.
Stems decumbent or prostrate, up to 35cm, puberulous, often rooting at

5. LYSIMACHIA

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151. PRIMULACEAE

nodes. Leaves opposite, ovate, 1-3.5 x 0.5-2.2cm, acute, with thin intramargi- nal vein and scattered glandular dots, thinly or densely puberulous on bothsurfaces, base rounded to narrowly winged petiole, 3-10mm. Flowers terminal and in axillary pairs; pedicels 2-8mm, strongly deflexed in fruit. Calyx 4-10mm, densely ciliate; teeth linear-lanceolate. Corolla yellow, 6—12mm long, usuallygland-dotted; lobes ovate, acute. Stamens included. Capsule 4—5mm diameter,5-valved. '

Bhutan: S - Chukka district (Chukka); Darjeeling: Lebong and Mongpu.Shady banks and damp ground in forest, 1970-2l30m. June-August.

L. japoniea is treated here in a broad sense including L. debilis. The two havesometimes been treated as separate taxa (69).

9. L. congestiflora Hemsley
Similar to L. japoniea but stems and leaves less densely puberulous; flowers

3-5, clustered only at apex of branches; surrounded by whorls of upper leaves; pedicels I-3mm, erect in fruit; corolla 7-10mm long.

Bhutan: S - Chukka district, C —Tongsa district, N - Upper Kuru Chu district (Between Denchung and Julu); Darjeeling: Kurseong, Sonada, Lebong, Senchal; Sikkim: Chunthang. In damp places in forest, l060—2130m. June-July.

In the past often misidentified as L. japoniea or L. debilis.

10. L. ferruginea Edgeworth; L. deltoidea auct. non Wight
Similar to L. japoniea but softly hirsute (often reddish) throughout; leaves

smaller, 0.8-2.5(-3) x 0.6-l.5cm, acute to obtuse, somewhat thicker in texture; flowers axillary; pedicels longer, 5-l0(-15)mm in flower, (elongating up to 20mm in fruit), often deflexed; flowers smaller, calyx 3-6mm, corolla 3-6mm.

Bhutan: C - Thimphu district (Tsalimape, Paro Valley, Sharna to Chiodi Ponkay), Punakha district (Samtengang to Chusom) Bumthang district (Bumthang) and Tashigang district (Kanglung); Bhutan/Assam frontier, OrkaLa; Darjeeling: Basti (?Bhotia Basti). In sandy soil in oak forests or grassyhillsides, 1820-2890m. June-August.

Specimens from the Himalaya and northern India identified as the southem Indian L. deltoidea Wight mostly belong to this species.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[Saroj Kasaju]

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Saroj ji, for the keys from Flora of Bhutan.

That should help us a lot.

I have put these keys at Lysimachia

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Mr. Gartg ,

Did you find all 5 pages? Some were reverted due oversize.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

May not have gone to efi group, but got in personal mail.

Most important is the Keys, which I was looking for a long time.

[Saroj Kasaju]

OK Mr. Garg !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

On further checking, I do find the key character of Plants red to black glandular punctate or striate for Lysimachia debilis as per keys in Flora of China as pointed out by Ashwini ji in SK1960 30 May 2019

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju