FOR VALIDATION :: ¿ Symplocos cochinchinensis (Lour.) S.Moore ? :: The Nilgiris :: Jan 29, 2026 · 11:07 AM IST

[Dinesh Valke]

FOR VALIDATION :: ¿ Symplocos cochinchinensis (Lour.) S.Moore ? The Nilgiris :: Jan 29, 2026 · 11:07 AM IST Naduvattam, about 1905 m asl

Regards. Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Why not Symplocos cochinchinensis subsp. laurina ?:
https://efloraofindia.com/efi/symplocos-cochinchinensis-var-laurina/
https://indiaflora-ces.iisc.ac.in/FloraPeninsular/herbsheet.php?id=9281&cat=7

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[Dinesh Valke]

Very much possible Garg ji. I am not familiar with these species.

I will go with the ID that gets concluded.

Regards,

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Here the leaves look different from your other two postings at
FOR VALIDATION :: ¿ Symplocos cochinchinensis (Lour.) S.Moore ? The Nilgiris :: Jan 28, 2026 · 5:00 PM IST
FOR VALIDATION :: ¿ Symplocos cochinchinensis (Lour.) S.Moore ? :: The Nilgiris :: Jan 28, 2026 · 4:54 PM IST

On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 at 12:11, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Dinesh Valke]

Many thanks Garg ji.

I will take it as Symplocos cochinchinensis subsp. laurina, now considered as synonym of Symplocos acuminata (Blume) Miq. at POWO.

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

But here the leaves look different from your other two postings of yours.

[Dinesh Valke]

Many thanks Garg ji. 

I checked the species of Symplocos found in the Ooty - Coonoor region - they are: 

Symplocos obtusa Wall. ex G.Don 

Symplocos foliosa Wight

Symplocos cochinchinensis subsp. laurina (Retz.) Noot. (Symplocos acuminata (Blume) Miq.)

The best possibility of the posted plant would be   Symplocos cochinchinensis subsp. laurina (Retz.) Noot. ... assuming some variations in the leaves.

Ruled out possibility of Symplocos racemosa Roxb. because it rarely occurs at high altitude.

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

There are few other species reported from Nilgiri district as per IFO:
https://indiaflora-ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=11478&cat=13 (Symplocos racemosa)
https://indiaflora-ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=11462&cat=13 (Symplocos lucida)
https://indiaflora-ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=11465&cat=13 (Symplocos macrophylla)

Pl. check these with the keys mentioned here.

May be 
https://indiaflora-ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=11478&cat=13 (Symplocos racemosa)
https://efloraofindia.com/efi/symplocos-racemosa/

[Dinesh Valke]

Species of Symplocos found in the Ooty - Coonoor (high altitude) region:

1. Symplocos obtusa Wall. ex G.Don 
2. Symplocos foliosa Wight
3. Symplocos cochinchinensis subsp. laurina (Retz.) Noot. (Symplocos acuminata (Blume) Miq.)

The posted plant was found at approx 1900 m asl

Symplocos racemosa Roxb. rarely occurs at high altitude. I am not sure.

I have not checked S. lucida / S. macrophylla.

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Dinesh ji.

From where did you get these details of distribution in Ooty- Coonoor region and altitude of distribution for Symplocos racemosa Roxb. ?

[Dinesh Valke]

I put my query in Google's AI.

It can return wrong responses.

https://share.google/aimode/F9nMZFO6O5zHKUVrf

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Dinesh ji.

If you mention Google AI as reference, it will be helpful to others like me, in dealing with the matter further. 

[Dinesh Valke]

Sure Garg ji.

I will do that henceforth, by sharing the link to the query.

Normally, the information I put is fetched from Google's AI to save time, with the explicit knowledge that the responses may at times be wrong or misleading. 

Regards.

Dinesh

[J.M. Garg]

Yes, maybe.

IFO shows some variations the leaves at 
https://indiaflora-ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=11458&cat=13

[Dinesh Valke]

I agree, Garg ji, there are variations in leaves seen.

I am hoping the ID gets validated here or in iNaturalist. I am not sure whether the variations in leaves are natural or not.

Regards.

Dinesh