Plant for ID 4 SMP 30May 2010

[Satish Phadke]

Large tree in Amboli for ID.
Dr Phadke

Date/Time-	30/05/2010 5:00 Pm
Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-	Amboli, Near Nangartas waterfall point
Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-	Wild
Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-	Large tree
Height/Length-	15 meter
Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-	Simple alternate. Cordate base.Dark green.
Inflorescence Type/ Size-	Compound
Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-	0.5cm  White
Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-	Oval Black 0.5cm
Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-

[Satish Phadke]

I think the leaves are opposite and not alternate as written wrongly earlier.

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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[R. Vijayasankar]

Could it be a Viburnum species?!

With regards

R. Vijayasankar

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“I think the leaves are opposite and not alternate as written wrongly earlier.” from Satish ji.

 

“Could it be a Viburnum species?!

With regards

R. Vijayasankar”

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Date: 3 June 2010 21:10
Subject: [efloraofindia:37055] Plant for ID 4 SMP 30May 2010
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[Smilax004]

Hi,

Most probably Viburnum acuminatum (Caprifoliaceae). Please check
following characters.
1. Corolla rotate or tubular
2. Leaf margins recurved
3. Leaves (beneath) branchlets and inflorescence are covered with
round peltate scales.

Regards,
Giby

On Jun 30, 11:03 am, "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> “I think the leaves are opposite and not alternate as written wrongly
> earlier.” from Satish ji.
>

> “Could it be a *Viburnum species*?!

>
> With regards
>
> R. Vijayasankar”
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Satish Phadke <drsmpha...@gmail.com>
> Date: 3 June 2010 21:10
> Subject: [efloraofindia:37055] Plant for ID 4 SMP 30May 2010
> To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>
>
> Large tree in Amboli for ID.
> Dr Phadke
>

> *Date/Time-*
>
> * *
>
> *30/05/2010 5:00 Pm*
>
> *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- *
>
> * *
>
> *Amboli, Near Nangartas waterfall point*
>
> *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*
>
> * *
>
> *Wild*
>
> *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *
>
> * *
>
> *Large tree*
>
> *Height/Length- *
>
> * *
>
> *15 meter*
>
> *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- *
>
> * *
>
> *Simple alternate. Cordate base.Dark green.*
>
> *Inflorescence Type/ Size- *
>
> * *
>
> *Compound *
>
> *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*
>
> * *
>
> *0.5cm  White   *
>
> *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-*
>
> * *
>
> *Oval Black 0.5cm*
>
> *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*
>
> * *

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>  IMG_9458s.jpg
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>  IMG_9451s.jpg
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>  IMG_9454s.jpg
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>  IMG_9457s.jpg
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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
“I think the leaves are opposite and not alternate as written wrongly earlier.” from Satish ji.
 

“Could it be a Viburnum species?!
With regards
R. Vijayasankar”

"Most probably Viburnum acuminatum (Caprifoliaceae). Please check
following characters.
1. Corolla rotate or tubular
2. Leaf margins recurved
3. Leaves (beneath) branchlets and inflorescence are covered with
round peltate scales.

Regards,
Giby"

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Date: 3 June 2010 21:10
Subject: [efloraofindia:37055] Plant for ID 4 SMP 30May 2010
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[sweedle cerejo]

Hello All!

            This is Premna coriacea C.B.Cl. of family Verbenaceae. It is an extensive climber found occasionally in dense forests of Western ghats.

Regards,
Sweedle Cerejo

St. Xavier's College

Mumbai

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[Giby Kuriakose]

But Sathish, in his description, said that it is a Tree! That is why I think it is not Premna. 

Regards

Giby

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[Rajdeo Singh]

hello...        Even i think the posted photos is of Premna coriacea, it is a straggling climber. Mr. Satish please check the habit of the plant, may be the plant has climbed on some other tree, giving tree like appearance... Rajdeo Singh Mumbai --- On Fri, 9/7/10, Giby Kuriakose <giby.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Satish Phadke]

Thanks everybody for going into great research work.
I agree that the inflorescence does look like from Genus Premna.
As far as I remember this was definitely a tree....unless if it happens to be a great big climber engulfing whole of the tree that no leaves of the original tree are visible(or which may have dried)
Please take a look at the IMG_9451 and the newly added IMG 9453 which show large woody branches.
If anybody from the group happen to be in Amboli please visit the Nangarts. The branches of this tree surround the temple present there from almost all sides and one can easily take the pictures of the foliage. of this unmistakable plant(?)
Dr Phadke

[Smilax004]

IMG 9453 is not available!
As you doubted the genus Premna grows as if it is a branch of the host
tree. It would be apt to call strangler rather than climber! But
Gamble says it can be trees as well! (we have to be very careful I
guess). Now I remember I have seen Premna grows as tree in Waynad.
I hereby agree the identification of these pictures as Premna coriacea
and not Viburnum acuminatum as I earlier idied. Sorry for the
confusion.

I think, all members has to take notes while taking pictures itself
rather than remembering such important notes that might always result
in documenting mistakes. Making field notes would certainly give
precise data.


Regards
Giby

On Jul 9, 6:00 pm, Satish Phadke <drsmpha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks everybody for going into great research work.

> I agree that the inflorescence does look like from Genus *Premna*.

> As far as I remember this was definitely a tree....unless if it happens to
> be a great big climber engulfing whole of the tree that no leaves of the
> original tree are visible(or which may have dried)
> Please take a look at the IMG_9451 and the newly added IMG 9453 which show
> large woody branches.
> If anybody from the group happen to be in Amboli please visit the Nangarts.
> The branches of this tree surround the temple present there from almost all
> sides and one can easily take the pictures of the foliage. of this
> unmistakable plant(?)
> Dr Phadke
>

> On 9 July 2010 16:09, Rajdeo Singh <rajdeo...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>
>
> > hello...
>
> >        Even i think the posted photos is of Premna coriacea, it is a
> > straggling climber.
> > Mr. Satish please check the habit of the plant, may be the plant
> > has climbed on some other tree, giving tree like appearance...
>
> > Rajdeo Singh
> > Mumbai
>

> > --- On *Fri, 9/7/10, Giby Kuriakose <giby.kuriak...@gmail.com>* wrote:

>
> > From: Giby Kuriakose <giby.kuriak...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:40645] Plant for ID 4 SMP 30May 2010
> > To: "sweedle cerejo" <sweedle.cer...@gmail.com>
> > Cc: "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com>, "efloraofindia" <
> > indian...@googlegroups.com>, "satish phadke" <phadke.sat...@gmail.com>,
> > "Vijayasankar Raman" <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Friday, 9 July, 2010, 3:44 PM
>
> > But Sathish, in his description, said that it is a Tree! That is why I
> > think it is not Premna.
>
> > Regards
> > Giby
>

> > On 9 July 2010 15:40, sweedle cerejo <sweedle.cer...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=sweedle.cer...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> >> Hello All!
>
> >>             This is *Premna coriacea *C.B.Cl.* *of family Verbenaceae. It

> >> is an extensive climber found occasionally in dense forests of Western
> >> ghats.
>
> >> Regards,
> >> Sweedle Cerejo
> >> St. Xavier's College
> >> Mumbai
>
> >> "The more our world functions like the natural world, the more likely we
> >> are to endure on this home that is ours, but not ours alone."
> >> ~ Janine Benyus
>

> >> On 9 July 2010 10:55, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=jmga...@gmail.com>

> >> > wrote:
>
> >>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
> >>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
> >>> “I think the leaves are opposite and not alternate as written wrongly
> >>> earlier.” from Satish ji.
>

> >>> “Could it be a *Viburnum species?!*
> >>> With regards
> >>> R. Vijayasankar”
>
> >>> "*Most probably Viburnum acuminatum* (Caprifoliaceae). Please check

> >>> following characters.
> >>> 1. Corolla rotate or tubular
> >>> 2. Leaf margins recurved
> >>> 3. Leaves (beneath) branchlets and inflorescence are covered with
> >>> round peltate scales.
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Giby"
>
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> From: Satish Phadke <drsmpha...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=drsmpha...@gmail.com>
>
> >>> Date: 3 June 2010 21:10
> >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:37055] Plant for ID 4 SMP 30May 2010

> >>> To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=indian...@googlegroups.com>

>
> >>> Large tree in Amboli for ID.
> >>> Dr Phadke
>

> >>> *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-*
>
> >>> * *

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[Satish Phadke]

Attaching the remaining image IMG_9453.
I also agree the fact of this being Premna.
I will have to call Hemant Ogale( who has a resort there) from Amboli to check for the plant.
Will let you know after wards.
Dr Phadke

[R. Vijayasankar]

Thank you all, for the id.

With regards

R. Vijayasankar