MS Feb, 2020/03 Rubus sp. for ID

[M Sawmliana]

Location : Ailawng, Mizoram

Date : 07-09-2018

Habit : Scrambling shrub

Habitat : Wild

With regards,

M.Sawmliana

[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Resembles moluccanus,

With regards.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

I guess Paradesi is right !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[M Sawmliana]

Thank you sir for the id. R.alceifolia ?

On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 4:25:09 PM UTC+5:30, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote:

I guess Paradesi is right !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 10:18 PM Paradesi Anjaneyulu <paradesia...@gmail.com> wrote:

Resembles moluccanus,

With regards.

On Sun, Feb 2, 2020, 19:41 M Sawmliana <msawm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Location : Ailawng, Mizoram

Date : 07-09-2018

Habit : Scrambling shrub

Habitat : Wild

With regards,

M.Sawmliana

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[J.M. Garg]

Lucid Central gives the following difference between the two:

Giant bramble (Rubus alceifolius) is often confused with Molucca bramble (Rubus moluccanus), which is sometimes also known as "wild raspberry". These two species can be distinguished by the following differences:

• giant bramble (Rubus alceifolius ) has relatively large leaves (8.5-20 cm long) with 5-7 shallow lobes. There are a pair of relatively large (about 15 mm long and 15 mm wide) leafy structures (i.e. stipules) on the stem near the base of each leaf stalk (i.e. petiole). The flowers are white and the fruit are made up of numerous segments (i.e. 110-180 carpels).
  
• Molucca bramble (Rubus moluccanus) has relatively small leaves (4.5-15 cm long) that are unlobed or three-lobed. There are a pair of relatively small (about 12 mm long and 6 mm wide) leafy structures (i.e. stipules) on the stem near the base of each leaf stalk (i.e. petiole). The flowers may be white or pink and the fruit are made up of relatively few segments (i.e. 35-70 carpels).

Pl. check.

I think Rubus alceifolius has not been reported from India (but reported from Myanmar) so far on checking at net as per Catalogue of Life  CABI  WSSA  Flora of China.

Pl. also see other links on it at Plant Net  GISD  Useful Tropical Plants

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sawmliana ji,

May I request you to pl. post high resolution image to check the features mentioned in the book.

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Enclosed 553 pages of Flora of Mizoram vol-I

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sawmliana ji.

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Sir, another images of Rubus sp. is attached herewith for n/a

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Sawmliana ji.

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To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Sir, another images of Rubus sp. is attached herewith for n/a

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 4:19 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

Yes. Rubus alceifolius

[J.M. Garg]

Taking it as https://efloraofindia.com/2020/03/02/rubus-treutleri/, as per discussions at MS, Nov.,2023/05 Rubus sp. for id.

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