Pali near Khopoli, MH :: Small plant for ID :: ARK2019-64

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Alka Khare

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Sep 2, 2019, 11:14:11 AM9/2/19
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Hello friends

This was seen by the roadside at Pali near Khopoli, MH in Aug 2019.
Is it some Cassia? No flowers seen.

Requested to please validate.

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Alka Khare
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dr.rakesh Singh

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Sep 3, 2019, 10:09:50 AM9/3/19
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Visible stipules hint at Zornia , and a related genus Poiretia . Just a guess .

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ushadi

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Sep 3, 2019, 11:27:18 AM9/3/19
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Rakesh

four leaflets of the leaf are uniquely arranged
not in classic 4 leaf cross as in clover

but rather like the 4 part wing of a butterfly or a moth
two in front forming acute angels and posterior two at almost 90 degrees to the midline

I  found only one picture Poiretia punctata (Wild.) Desv. pic from specimen at RBG kew

as the page opens, you get lots of options, ask for images
and voila  ....you see our four leaf ....

But its a plant of mexico and tropical Americas...
wonder when did it get here??





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dr.rakesh Singh

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Sep 4, 2019, 1:07:32 AM9/4/19
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My dilemma exactly . 
Possibilities are two ......
either it came somehow ! 
or we do have Poiretia in WG , not documented yet ! 




Alka Khare

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Sep 4, 2019, 10:58:34 PM9/4/19
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Thanks Usha di and Rakesh ji.

I could not find any Zornia in efi that matches. Also, no Poiretia is found in efi.

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Alka Khare

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Sep 9, 2019, 10:58:32 PM9/9/19
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Can this be Cassia absus, there was a suggestion to that effect on an FB group as well as from a fellow traveller

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dr.rakesh Singh

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Sep 10, 2019, 12:29:47 AM9/10/19
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I say yes , with a long sigh ! 
Have seen this species as post on fb once or twice , not more . Never seen physically . 

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Alka Khare

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Sep 11, 2019, 1:15:56 AM9/11/19
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Thanks Rakesh ji for validating.

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Alka Khare

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 9:59:47 AM UTC+5:30, dr.rakesh Singh wrote:
I say yes , with a long sigh ! 
Have seen this species as post on fb once or twice , not more . Never seen physically . 

On Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 08:28 Alka Khare <alk...@gmail.com> wrote:
Can this be Cassia absus, there was a suggestion to that effect on an FB group as well as from a fellow traveller

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Alka Khare

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 19, 2019, 3:56:39 AM9/19/19
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I think much different from Chamaecrista absus as per images herein.
Also could not find a match as per comparative images at Senna

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dr.rakesh Singh

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Sep 19, 2019, 5:06:09 AM9/19/19
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I agree , but what I think is , we should take into account various stages of a plant's life , and how they appear . Habit obviously changes , but importantly , leaves do too . 
Example......Datura inoxia begins its life with toothed ,big  leaves ......a mature plant shows entire leaf with unequal base . Physalis angulata leaves begin as dentate , later become entire . 
2 pairs of leaflets......nothing else comes to mind . 

dr.rakesh Singh

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Sep 19, 2019, 5:35:24 AM9/19/19
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My first impression was Zornia species seeing few bracts?, and apparently , there is a Zornia setosa subsp. obovata with 4 leaflets . 

J.M. Garg

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Sep 19, 2019, 6:41:12 AM9/19/19
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Thanks, Rakesh ji,
I think not Zornia.
It should be some Geissaspis species as per comparative images herein. May be Geissaspis tenella Benth. most likely.

J.M. Garg

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Sep 19, 2019, 8:28:00 AM9/19/19
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From: dr.rakesh Singh <dr.rake...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 16:54
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:328907] Pali near Khopoli, MH :: Small plant for ID :: ARK2019-64
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Wow ! Sir , exactly !! Geissaspis it is !! ThanQ !!!

Alka Khare

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Sep 24, 2019, 11:58:09 PM9/24/19
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Thank you so much for the suggestion, it does look like it.

How would one differentiate between G. cristata and G. tenella?

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 25, 2019, 1:17:57 AM9/25/19
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Pl. check images at efi site closely, you will get the clue from your 2nd image.

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