Capparaceae and Cleomaceae fortnight :: Crateva sp. at Vaghbil, Thane for ID :: DV14

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Dinesh Valke

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Sep 6, 2013, 1:54:46 PM9/6/13
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Capparaceae and Cleomaceae fortnight
Cleomaceae, the cleome or spider-flower family
Crateva sp. for ID 

Dear friends, these sightings of caper plants in vicinity of creek at Vaghbil, Thane. Watching since 2007, they have remained seemingly with a stunted growth not rising beyond 2 - 3 metres, with chaotic branching. They must have been planted by village folks - because there is a very small temple nearby, dedicated to Lord Naga which gets thronged by entire village during Naga Panchami. I had seen its fruits very long back, regret to have not taken photos then. They were ovoid, not globose for sure. Please ignore the photos having been labelled as Crateva religiosa. Keen to know the ID.
Nagoba Mandir at Vaghbil, Thane 

Temple at Vaghbil 



at Vaghbil, Thane on 09 JUN 07 

Varan (Sanskrit: वरण) 

Crateva religiosa 

Loiyumba Lei 



at Vaghbil, Thane on 18 OCT 09 

Three-leaf Caper 

Obtuse-leaf Crateva 

Varun (Marathi: वरुण) 



at Vaghbil, Thane on 28 NOV 09 

Three-leaf Caper  

Vaywaran (Marathi: वायवरणा) 

Ulimidi (Telugu: ఉలిమిడి)
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Dinesh

Rathinasabapathy Bhuvaragasamy

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Sep 6, 2013, 10:03:32 PM9/6/13
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Thanks Dinesh Ji for the nice pictures and the information.

BRS


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Mahadeswara

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Sep 8, 2013, 8:52:16 AM9/8/13
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Wah....   What  beautiful photographs are these!  

J.M. Garg

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Hi, Dinesh ji,
Trees of Delhi states Crataeva nurvala, Crataeva religiosa & Crataeva magna to be an invalid Syn. of Crateva
adansonii
(i.e. not valid synonyms, but are commonly used (incorrectly)).
 
Crataeva nurvala [C.religosa] is an African species that is not [naturally] found in India.
 
Also see

Flora of Eastern Ghats: Hill Ranges of South East India, Volume 1 By Thammineni Pullaiah, D. Muralidhara Rao, K. Sri Ramamurthy (Description & Keys with C. Magna) (syn. as C. religiosa Dunn in Gamble , pp non Forst. f.)

 

Flora of Eastern Ghats: Hill Ranges of South East India, Volume 1 By T. Pullaiah, D. Muralidhara Rao, K. Sri Ramamurthy (2002- Description & Keys- Crateva adansonii subsp. odora (Buch.-Ham.) Jacobs (syn. Crateva odora Buch.-Ham., Crateva religiosa var. roxburghii, Crateva religiosa sensu Dunn)

 
You can see a lot of discussions in this regard at Crateva adansonii subsp. odora & Crateva tapia, the only two species posted & agreed to so far at efi. Also see  Crateva (Indian book refrences).

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