Grewia from Dhimbam ghat road-side in Sathyamangalam RF

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 29, 2018, 3:00:18 AM7/29/18
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Fruit images look different from the originally posted images. So posting for id pl. 


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From: Muthu Karthick <nmk...@gmail.com>
Date: 27 February 2012 at 00:46
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:109415] Grewia for id 100210MK1
To: Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>,


Dear all,
This photo was taken at the same location of Dhimbam ghat road-side in Sathyamangalam RF.
Date: 27 Feb 2012


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Kishor K C

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Aug 1, 2018, 5:30:23 AM8/1/18
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It appears to be G. oppositifolia.
Plenty in the Maruthamalai, coimbatore region and other dry regions.  

Attaching  images of G. oppositifoia for comparison.
Please crosscheck.
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J.M. Garg

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Aug 1, 2018, 5:39:10 AM8/1/18
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Thanks, Kishor ji

Mahadeswara

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Aug 1, 2018, 11:58:52 PM8/1/18
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Doubtful ID. Looks different .

J.M. Garg

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Aug 11, 2018, 3:29:48 AM8/11/18
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Hi, Kishor ji,
I hope author citation and synonyms are OK as per Catalogue of Life.
Pl. confirm.

J.M. Garg

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Aug 11, 2018, 5:40:20 AM8/11/18
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Thanks a lot, Kishor ji.
A great help.


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From: Kishor K C <kishor...@gmail.com>
Date: 11 August 2018 at 14:51
Subject: Re: Grewia from Dhimbam ghat road-side in Sathyamangalam RF
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>


Sir,

The correct citation is G. oppositifolia Roxb. ex DC. and it is in my recent paper on Roxburgh's Grewia which will appear in the next issue of Journal (I will notify you when it will publish).

Regarding the synonym, all appears to be fine, though I am not doubtful about Grewia orientalis Roxb. ex Wight & Arn. 
The G. orientalis Roxb. is nothing but the G. orientalis L., and it is not referable to G. oppositifolia Roxb. ex DC.
 
Wight & Arn. in their Prodr. Fl. Ind. Orient. (1837) referred Roxburgh's Icon 222 for their G. emarginata, which was a drawing Roxburgh himself considered for his Flora Indica (1832) as G. orientalis and also mentioned Rheede's Hort. Malabaricus (1865-1868) drawing (Tab. 46. attached below).
Further, Wight & Arn. (1837) also considered G. orientalis Roxb. Fl. Ind. 2. p. 586 as a synonym for G. orientalis L.
 
The specimen was sent by Roxburgh to Smith as "G. microcos" initially, which is the type of Roxburgh's G. orientalis available now at LINN.

So G. orientalis Roxb. ex Wight & Arn = G. orientalis L.

Also attaching the icons of G. orientalis and G. oppositifolia by Roxburgh here for clarification.

I hope the little information I provided is helpful. 

Thank you

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c/o Lawkim Motors Division
Shindewadi, Shirwal post
Dist: Satara, Maharashtra 412 801.

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J.M. Garg

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Aug 11, 2018, 5:40:41 AM8/11/18
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Thanks a lot, Kishor ji.
A great help.

On 11 August 2018 at 15:05, Kishor K C <kishor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sir,

In the second paragraph please read it as "though I am doubtful about.." instead of  "though I am not doubtful about.." 
It was an error while typing.

Thank you




On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 2:51 PM Kishor K C <kishor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sir,

The correct citation is G. oppositifolia Roxb. ex DC. and it is in my recent paper on Roxburgh's Grewia which will appear in the next issue of Journal (I will notify you when it will publish).

Regarding the synonym, all appears to be fine, though I am not doubtful about Grewia orientalis Roxb. ex Wight & Arn. 
The G. orientalis Roxb. is nothing but the G. orientalis L., and it is not referable to G. oppositifolia Roxb. ex DC.
 
Wight & Arn. in their Prodr. Fl. Ind. Orient. (1837) referred Roxburgh's Icon 222 for their G. emarginata, which was a drawing Roxburgh himself considered for his Flora Indica (1832) as G. orientalis and also mentioned Rheede's Hort. Malabaricus (1865-1868) drawing (Tab. 46. attached below).
Further, Wight & Arn. (1837) also considered G. orientalis Roxb. Fl. Ind. 2. p. 586 as a synonym for G. orientalis L.
 
The specimen was sent by Roxburgh to Smith as "G. microcos" initially, which is the type of Roxburgh's G. orientalis available now at LINN.

So G. orientalis Roxb. ex Wight & Arn = G. orientalis L.

Also attaching the icons of G. orientalis and G. oppositifolia by Roxburgh here for clarification.

I hope the little information I provided is helpful. 

Thank you


On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 12:59 PM J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Junior Research Fellow
Naoroji Godrej Centre for Plant Research (NGCPR)
c/o Lawkim Motors Division
Shindewadi, Shirwal post
Dist: Satara, Maharashtra 412 801.



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Kishor K C
Junior Research Fellow
Naoroji Godrej Centre for Plant Research (NGCPR)
c/o Lawkim Motors Division
Shindewadi, Shirwal post
Dist: Satara, Maharashtra 412 801.

Kishor K C

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Aug 11, 2018, 5:45:04 AM8/11/18
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My pleasure. 
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