SK2077 26 July 2019

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 26, 2019, 12:38:19 PM7/26/19
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Dear Members

Location:  Phulchoki, Lalitpur
Date:  3 July 2019
Elevation:  2674 m.
Habit : Wild

Whiuch Apiaceaec??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 26, 2019, 12:45:46 PM7/26/19
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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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J.M. Garg

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Aug 2, 2019, 5:24:02 AM8/2/19
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Pl. check comparative images at Apiaceae
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Aug 2, 2019, 7:13:37 AM8/2/19
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Appears to be some Selinum species but not finding a match as per species given in
Selinum candollei DC. (Himalaya (Kashmir to Sikkim)) (ambiguous synonym for Cortia candollei (Wall. ex DC.) Leute)
Selinum striatum C. B. Clarke (Nepal) = Oreocome striata (DC.) Pimenov & Kljuykov as per GRIN (2011)
Selinum wallichianum (DC.) Raizada & Saxena (No distribution given) = Ligusticopsis wallichianum (DC.) Pimenov & Kljuykov as per GRIN (2011)


Key to the species of Oreocome from Himalayan species of Selinum L. sl - BioOne
1. Bracts 4-10 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
– Bracts lacking . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
2. Umbels 8-16-rayed; mericarp ribs equal or almost equal, usually short-winged; fruits small, 2.9-4 mm long . . . . . . . . . . . 1. O. striata
– Umbels 20-45-rayed; marginal mericarp ribs winged, dorsal clearly narrower; fruits 4.5-8 mm long . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
3. Calyx teeth filiform, longer than stylopodia; styles up to 1.5 mm long; mesocarp cell walls without pits; stems thin, up to 6 mm in diam. . . . . . . . . . . 2. O. hindukushensis
– Calyx teeth lanceolate-triangular to lanceolate-linear, shorter than stylopodia; styles up to 0.7 mm long; mesocarp cell walls with pits; stems thick, 15-25 mm in diam.... 3. O. candollei
4. Bracteoles lanceolate, longer than umbellets; terminal leaf lobes linear-lanceolate to linear; stems, petioles and petiolules pubescent. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4. O. involucellata
– Bracteoles linear-lanceolate to linear, shorter than umbellets; terminal leaf lobes broader, toothed; stems pubescent only below umbels or glabrous ..............5
5. Umbels 20-45-rayed; marginal ribs 3-4 times larger than dorsal; secretory ducts in valleculas 1-2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5. O. limprichtii
– Umbels 10-16-rayed; marginal and dorsal ribs almost equal; secretory ducts in valleculas 2-3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .O. depauperata

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J.M. Garg

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Aug 2, 2019, 7:52:43 AM8/2/19
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May be some Angelica species.
I checked all species as per Checklist of Nepal
I think it is close to Angelica nubigena (C. B. Clarke) P. K. Mukh. as per POWO & GBIF (except for 2 specimens as given below, others are of Angelica apaensis R. H. Shan & C. Q. Yuan) & its high resolution images at

Saroj Kasaju

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Aug 2, 2019, 11:46:37 AM8/2/19
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I guess Angelica nubigena (C.B.Clarke) P.K.Mukh. is the good match.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Aug 4, 2019, 2:40:26 AM8/4/19
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Finally I got more clarity after lot of search, from keys and details in Flora of Bhutan
This species is also quite close as far as leaves are concerned to Angelica cyclocarpa (C.Norman) Cannon as per details given in the link above.
Now I am sure about this being Angelica nubigena (C.B.Clarke) P.K.Mukh., after matching with the description.

Saroj Kasaju

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Aug 6, 2019, 6:30:40 AM8/6/19
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Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Aug 13, 2019, 3:36:00 AM8/13/19
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I am now doubtful about its id as Angelica nubigena (C.B.Clarke) P.K.Mukh. bracteoles 4–10, linear 5–12mm and no mention of any bracts as per details in Flora of Bhutan
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J.M. Garg

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Aug 21, 2019, 7:32:55 AM8/21/19
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

I tried all species of Heracleum in Checklist of Nepal as per following, but unable to place it:

Heracleum candicans

Heracleum canescens

Heracleum nepalense

https://www.gbif.org/species/3630331 (Heracleum brunonis (Wall. ex DC.) C.B.Cl.)

https://www.gbif.org/species/3629462 (Heracleum lallii C.Norman)

http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:943618-1 (Tetrataenium sublineare (C.B.Clarke) Manden)

http://plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:943871-1 (Tetrataenium wallichii (DC.) Manden)

http://envis.frlht.org/plantdetails/e4e337e30a2bc668927377171fcf1b93/6c24ad7955c1479d140401452de4910f (Heracleum wallichii DC.)



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J.M. Garg

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Sep 28, 2019, 7:16:10 AM9/28/19
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On checking with keys in Flora of Bhutan lead me to Pleurospermum.
On further checking with keys of this genus at Pleurospermum lead me to Pleurospermum dentatum (DC.) C. B. Clarke which seems to match as per specimens from Nepal at GBIF
Flora of Bhutan gives habitat and elevation as below:
Moist open moorland slopes, disturbed rocky areas, 3050-4300m. August-September.
(Current name is Hymenidium dentatum (DC.) Pimenov & Kljuykov as per GBIF)

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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 28, 2019, 2:23:22 PM9/28/19
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Dear Mr. Garg,

It looks like more closer to Hymenidium benthamii (DC.) Pimenov & Kljuykov 
Syn : Pleurospermum benthamii (DC.) C.B.Clarke

Elevation is matching according to the FoC and also recorded in Phulchoki!

Pleurospermum benthami (DC-) C- 3- Clarke m H00 H Dept. Med. Pl. Nep. 2:47(l969)-

rl labrous Leaves petioled petiole 5-25 cm long, A tall herb, 0.6-l m high» néa itfly coméound 20_35 ¢m ,l0ng pinnae pinnatifid

_.n,9Isheathing at the base, e;istiPllllatt;, pgrgrsely serrate acu“; upper surface glabrous, slightly

deeply lobed lobes 3-1 Cm °" ' , ’ - d umbe|_ 25- ’ ll and terminal compound umbe|_ 25-cm long. Bracts 4-6, 4-5 cm long, deeply lobed. Bracteoles 4-7,l .5-2 cm long, oblong,

el innatifid at the apex. Rays 8—l5, 5-9 cm long, glabrous or shortly hairy.toothed‘ Scare y p d'celled 4-5 ridged, white, 0.4-0.5 cm in diam. Calyx-teeth

Flowers O-5-] cm lOnglOp§ clm lon, orbicular slightly recurved with l mid nerve, entire,Obsélemi Petals55,fi:ee,int.roi'se' filaients 0.3 cm long; anther 0. l cm long, bilobed, dorsi- ii,ii1elde.bSlit2i:ll:l)l:0\vn. ,Disk pioniinent, grenish-yellow. Styles 2, thickened at the base. Fruii O.8cm long, ellipsoid, dorsally compressed, furrow, l-vittate.

Distribution : Temperate Himalaya (Nepal to Sikkim); in Nepal—central. Ecology: Occurs in moist areas on grassy slope at 2000-3600 m altitude. Uses:
Local name:

Flowering: July-Aug.
Fruiting: Aug-Sept.
Place of collection: Phulchoki, 2200-2800 m.

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Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Sep 28, 2019, 11:18:51 PM9/28/19
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Flowers, flower head, leaves etc.- nothing matches with these images.
I have checked this before hand.
Also does not matches with specimens at GBIF

Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 26, 2020, 5:02:43 AM9/26/20
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Dear Mr. Garg ,


Elevation has got a vast difference, like beyond 3000ft. and no record so far 
from Kathmandu Valley except for P. benthamii. Please look into this once!
In the mean time I shall check further for the possibility.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Sep 28, 2020, 2:51:21 AM9/28/20
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Yes, this will also be Hymenidium benthamii as per GBIF - Speciemen.
Looks different from Hymenidium dentatum (Wall. ex DC.) M. G. Pimenov & E. V. Kljuykov as per GBIF specimens:


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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 28, 2020, 3:49:16 AM9/28/20
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Thank you Mr. Garg . Now need to amend in our site!

Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 11, 2025, 1:08:34 AM7/11/25
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Dear Mr. Garg,

It is still listed as UNID even though it is already listed in ID list.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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