[efloraofindia:32403] Crassulaceae for id 160410MK3

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Muthu Karthick

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Apr 16, 2010, 6:57:29 AM4/16/10
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Dear all,
Kindly identify this Kalonchoe species.

Date/Time- 

18-02-2010 / 11:00 AM

Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- 

Coimbatore Dist; ca.450msl; TN

Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- 

garden

Plant Habit-

herb

Height/Length- 

Up to 1 metre

Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- 

trifid

Inflorescence Type/ Size- 

raceme up to 20 cm long

Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- 

as in the pictures

Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- 


Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- 

 succulent leaves


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Kenneth Greby

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Apr 16, 2010, 7:06:10 AM4/16/10
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Kalanchoe dagremontiana.

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Ken Greby.



From: Muthu Karthick <nmk...@gmail.com>
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Subject: [efloraofindia:32403] Crassulaceae for id 160410MK3

tanay bose

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Apr 16, 2010, 9:17:15 AM4/16/10
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Dear Muthu,
This plant is Kalanchoe daigremontiana syn. Bryophyllum daigremontianum also called Devil's Backbone, Alligator Plant, Mexican Hat Plant indeed a very common garden plant. Ken made a typographical error please note..
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Kenneth Greby

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Apr 16, 2010, 9:15:02 PM4/16/10
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Sorry to all for the typo. I hadn't had any coffee yet...

Ken.


From: tanay bose <tanay...@gmail.com>
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tanay bose

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Apr 17, 2010, 12:21:16 AM4/17/10
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Ohhh ! that ok ken I too make a lots of error !!!
Tanay

Muthu Karthick

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Apr 17, 2010, 2:09:10 AM4/17/10
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Thank you Grebyji and Tanayji,

Is there any recent nomenclatural change in this?
Is this plant native to Tropical America?

Kenneth Greby

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Apr 17, 2010, 8:10:57 AM4/17/10
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Muthu--

 It is native to Madagascar, but it is a noxious weed here in Florida, USA.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalanchoe_daigremontiana#Distribution

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Ken.

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Prashant awale

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Apr 18, 2010, 4:32:49 AM4/18/10
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Dear Tanay,
I read about Kalanchoe pinnata which looks similar to the one discussed here. Any difference between Kalanchoe daigremontiana and K. pinnata?

Do have a look at this link..
http://www.hear.org/starr/plants/images/image/?q=070308-5336

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Prashant

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Gurcharan Singh

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Apr 18, 2010, 5:02:42 AM4/18/10
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I tend to agree with Prashant ji. It looks more K. pinnata to me because leaves appear pinnate, lack purple blotches of K. daigremontiana, young flowers are not visible to confirm the nature of corolla

K. pinnata: Corolla contracted at base; leaves especially the later one pinnate; blade oblong, 5-12 cm long, yellow-green margined with red.

K. daigremontiana: Corolla not contracted at base. Leaves lanceolate-oblong, coarsely dentate, green blotched with red dorsally, 15-25 cm long, 



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Muthu Karthick

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Apr 19, 2010, 6:01:15 AM4/19/10
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K. daigremontiana has not yet been reported from Tamil Nadu.

R. Vijayasankar

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Apr 19, 2010, 4:50:45 PM4/19/10
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This is native of Madagascar. Said to be highly poisonous. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalanchoe_daigremontiana
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Gurcharan Singh

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Apr 19, 2010, 10:37:19 PM4/19/10
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Vijayasankar ji
I go strongly with K. pinnate. Kindly note pinnate leaves, absence of dark patches and more importantly blade almost as broad as long. K. daigremontiana has simple much longer (as compared to breadth) leaves with dark patches.


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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

R. Vijayasankar

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Apr 19, 2010, 11:13:31 PM4/19/10
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You should be correct Gurcharan ji. I was carried away by the name and not really looked into the id part. i agree with you. Thanks for the correction.
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