Kalatope id confusion1 id al130911

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Alok Mahendroo

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Sep 13, 2011, 12:04:12 PM9/13/11
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Dear friends,
I am posting two observations..... would welcome your views..

Location Kalatope, Chamba
Altitude 2100 mts
Habit shrub
Habitat wild
Plant height 3 feet

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Alok
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Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 13, 2011, 12:23:52 PM9/13/11
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Desmodium sp.
Alok ji, what is the confusion, and why in the subject line?


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Balkar Arya

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Sep 13, 2011, 12:27:47 PM9/13/11
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Yes Sir agree
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Alok Mahendroo

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Sep 13, 2011, 1:24:57 PM9/13/11
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Sir, at the first sight I had thought that these two are same plants..
but it seems to my untrained eyes that the leaves, flower colour and
inflorescence are different... Hence my confusion, because I have not as
yet learned to recognise or even identify the features of various
families......
regards
Alok

Alok Mahendroo

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Sep 15, 2011, 2:14:31 AM9/15/11
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Thank you, Gurcharan ji and Balkar ji...

Desmodium elegans

regards
Alok

Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 13, 2011, 10:58:43 PM11/13/11
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Resurfacing again for ID


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Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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Alok Mahendroo

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Nov 14, 2011, 4:00:17 AM11/14/11
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I think Desmodium Elegans.. sir
regards
Alok
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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 14, 2011, 4:29:46 AM11/14/11
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Alok ji
May be yes
But leaf shape and flower colour differ




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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

Alok Mahendroo

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Nov 14, 2011, 10:18:41 AM11/14/11
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EXTREMELY SORRY SIR!!

A goof up from my side.... The photographs posted in the original WERE
DIFFERENT PLANT....

but I had tried (at that time) to look for the plant again to verify and
I realise that I ended up measuring a different plant whose flowers
looked similar to the flower in the original observation posted in the
forum...

Here I send the two comparative photographs of the two plants....

where... 'Desmodium first observation.jpg' are the images posted with
the observation 'al130911' originally ... and...

Desmodium2.jpg are the images posted by me mistakenly today... but
measured and thought to be Desmodium elegans

But there was a third time I had photographed a similar flower and the
leaves appear to me different too... posting that as Desmodium3...

NOW I AM CONFUSED...!!

regards
Alok

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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 14, 2011, 10:39:32 AM11/14/11
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And now Alok ji, I am confused

It would be better if you relate fruits, leaves and flowers exactly from the concerned plants and post them separately. The leaves are different in two and are there for most of the year. It would be ideal to keep them as index and look for flowers and fruits accordingly  



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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 15, 2021, 7:06:07 AM9/15/21
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Forwarding again for ID
Distributed as  Desmodium elegans ?
Group discussion at

Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 15, 2021, 7:06:57 AM9/15/21
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Forwarding again for ID
Distributed as  Desmodium elegans ?
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Date: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 at 9:34:12 PM UTC+5:30
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 19, 2021, 10:30:29 AM9/19/21
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Yes, appears close as per images at Desmodium elegans DC. 

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Saroj Kasaju

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Sep 20, 2021, 5:19:40 AM9/20/21
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Ototropis elegans (DC.) H.Ohashi & K.Ohashi !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


J.M. Garg

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Oct 9, 2021, 4:16:19 AM10/9/21
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I think this is more closer to images at Desmodium confertum DC. rather than those at Desmodium elegans DC. 

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