Rosa webbiana Wall. (accepted name) ???

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Location: Nubra Valley, Leh

Altitude:  10000 ft.

Date: 22 August 2014

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks,  Saroj ji

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

efi page on Rosa webbiana

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[C CHADWELL]

The common xerophytic rose in Ladakh in Rosa webbiana.

Dickore & Klimes only record this pink-flowered species (plus

some yellow-flowered ones) in Ladakh.   There is a prominent yellow-

flowered rose in the Miyah Nullah, Lahoul during the treks I led there

in the mid-1980s, which I understood to be R.foetida but has been

confused with R.eglanteria.  Will need to check what the current thinking is?

I think these images fit satisfactorily this species but one has to be

aware of the possibility of Rosa macrophylla (like Rosa sericea, this

varies a good deal when growing under different conditions).

Stewart describes R.webbiana as the beautiful, pink, very spiny xerophytic rose of

N.Pakistan & Ladakh (he does not record it from Kashmir Valley) @ 1500-4050m.

He found it sometimes hard to distinguish from R.macrophylla.  Koelz stated that

R.webbiana does not spread by suckers but that R.macrophylla does.

I have seen what I consider to be Rosa macrophylla on the Rohtang

and above Koksar in Lahaul.

I must admit to wondering if the xerophytic rose I came across in the Mustang

District of the Upper Kali Gandaki, on my first visit to Nepal was a form of Rosa

webbiana I was unfamiliar with  - it was in fact Rosa sericea.

The forms of Rosa webbiana in the Kashmir Valley look a bit different to those

in Ladakh and there is a dwarf variant which I saw on the hill (mountain) above

Dal Lake, known at one time as Rosa nanothamnus Boulenger but included with R.webbiana

by some authors, to consider.  Stewart lists this from N.Pakistan & Kashmir @ 1500-2700m,

saying it is replaced by R.webbiana in the dry inner valleys.

There are a number of roses both cultivated and perhaps wild, in Kashmir I am uncertain

about.

Since a link was provided to Rosa webbiana entries on eFI, I think it will be worthwhile if

I take a quick look at these and give my INITIAL thoughts. 

I suspect it may be worthwhile me posting what images I have of roses in the Himalaya. 

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, 16 January 2017, 12:20
Subject: Fwd: Rosa webbiana Wall. (accepted name) ???

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Chadwell ji.

To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank yoi Chris !

On 17 Jan 2017 09:45, "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Chadwell ji.

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

[Saroj Kasaju]

Nepali Name : भोटे गुलाफ Bhote Gulaaf 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:41 AM Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank yoi Chris !

On 17 Jan 2017 09:45, "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Chadwell ji.