Hooghly : grass : sk : 31/5/13

[surajit koley]

Date/Time- 24/5/13; 11.40 am

Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Hooghly, don't know, don't know

Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild

Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- herb

Height/Length- don't know

Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- don't know, don't know,  35mm x 5mm approx.

Inflorescence Type/ Size- don't know

Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- don't know

Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- don't know

Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- don't know

Thank you,

Regards,

[surajit koley]

Good morning dear friends

Before experts take care of this post let's try to learn how to fish!

Can it be any Calamagrostis species?

Thanks in advance

Regards,

[Ushadi Micromini]

Surajit:
how many different grasses hjave you found in Hooghly so far?

usha di

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[surajit koley]

Usha Di,

To tell you the truth, i never counted :(

The number might be somewhere between 20 and thirty. My records are preserved in monthly folders, making it very difficult to count. I'm ashamed for it. I will try to give an approx. count sometimes later.

Thank you

Regards,

surajit

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Good morning dear friends Before experts take care of this post let's try to learn how to fish! Can it be any Calamagrostis species? Thanks in advance Regards,

surajit

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[surajit koley]

Garg Sir,

I couldn't find any similar looking pic in the net. Moreover, the leaves of various Calamagrostis in FoC are much bigger. So, it seems to be some other grass.

Thank you

Regards

surajit

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as Unidentified Hooghly : Grass

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Dear Surajit,

The species is interesting. Unable to narrow down at the moment.

Is the scale showing centimeter or inches? Kindly post a clear close up image of spikelets after manually  separating or deflexing it away from the rachis. Also see whether the spikelets are paired and if so whether one is sessile and other is pedicelled or all are similar. Kindly do the dissection of the spikelet and post. Or you can send me a sample of the inflorescence. 

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[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Manoj ji,

It was posted in 2013. Surajit ji is not responding to this post.

Scale appears to be in Cm.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Poaceae member- Hooghly, West Bengal 

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[Gurcharan Singh]

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Distributed as  Poaceae member- Hooghly, West Bengal 

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[surajit koley]

Sir,

Again I look forward to know the identity of this species.

Thank you.

With regards,

Surajit Koley

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Surajit ji,

Here is Manoj ji's reply:

"The species is interesting. Unable to narrow down at the moment.

Is the scale showing centimeter or inches? Kindly post a clear close up image of spikelets after manually  separating or deflexing it away from the rachis. Also see whether the spikelets are paired and if so whether one is sessile and other is pedicelled or all are similar. Kindly do the dissection of the spikelet and post. Or you can send me a sample of the inflorescence. 

Regards...

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[surajit koley]

Sir,

I regret that I couldn't reply to you earlier. I regret more that it has been so long since 2013 when I took those pictures. 

I found this grass in a ditch alongside a railway track. I am afraid that it won't be possible for me to return back to the site, or to find there, the concerned species to collect detailed data of this species.

Further, I have deleted most of the plant photographs I stored in my computer. I will search my pendrives to see if I have retained the originals of this one and certainly send you if I find some.

For the time being I can only say that the scale shown in the picture is in centimeter.

Thank you.

With regards,

Surajit Koley

[surajit koley]

Sir,

I could find only these resized pictures from my saved archives.

Thank you.

With regards,

Surajit Koley

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[surajit koley]

Sir,

Can this species be related to Pseudoraphis, like P. minuta?

Thank you.

With regards,

Surajit Koley

[Nancy Seby]

Could it be Leersia oryzoides?

Warm regards

Nancy Seby

www.greencoverinitiative.com

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Manoj ji

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 at 15:19
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It has characters of several general like Pseudoraphis, Hygrorhyza, Hymenachne, etc.

But after a lot of thought, I would rather like to place it in genus Eriochloa, the inflorescence resembling Eriochloa acuminata and spikelets resembling Eriochloa aristata, both of which are American species.

The cup below the spikelet is not clear in the picture though. The stem, node and leaf are more like Eriochloa than the other three genera. The hairs on the spikelets are like that of Eriochloa.

I suggest you could collect it again and try to see the characters in detail to confirm. Probably, It could be a described as a new species.

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[surajit koley]

I love to read your analysis, Manoj Sir. I will try my best to follow your suggestion to find this grass once again and obtain as much detailed data as I can.

I thank you very much for taking care of all my uploads, as well as providing me the most valuable feedback on each species. Without your tutorials I would never had dared to record any grass species.

Thank you Garg Sir for your unique patience and utmost care.   

With regards,

Surajit Koley

[surajit koley]

Thank you.Madam, you may have received Manoj Sir's review on this grass.

Your website is wonderful and I have bookmarked it for future reference. The photographs are great too! 

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I am sending a few attachments which suggest that the species should be finalised as Pseudoraphis minuta. Since these are dried specimen, it may look a little different from the photographs. As per these and other sheets, this is very common in marshy river banks often found gregariously in some patches. NL Bor in GBCIP  states " An extremely pretty grass with dense panicles of small spikelets which vary in colour from reddish-green to deep purple red" (May be because of the purplish stamens). It also states further "The plants root in mud at the edge of bheels or lakes and send out their culms floating upon water. In Assam it covers areas which can be measured in square yards. Mooney notes on a specimen collected by him by the edge of Sar Lake Cut, Puri. "An aquatic grass growing in water up to 9 in. deep and on damp ground. The water is slightly brackish. The grass tends to grow in small gregarious patches" 

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[surajit koley]

Manoj Sir,

I am grateful to you for providing details on this grass species

I kept it in my mind to revisit the place in order to obtain more details of this species. But, I couldn't,, because of the suspension of local train service due to complete lock-down since April, this year.

Thank you very much. And Garg Sir, thanks a lot.

Regards,

surajit