Aathaphal- Scientific name?

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J.M. Garg

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May 12, 2008, 1:45:32 AM5/12/08
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On 16/3/08 at Jayanti, Duars, West Bengal. It is locally called Aathaphal & eaten. May anybody tell its scientific name?
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sachin pandhare

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May 12, 2008, 2:06:08 AM5/12/08
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We call it RaamPhal in marathi.
we call custard apple to be SeetPhal
 
i am sure that it will belong to custard apple family in some way : Annonaceae??
 
 
also check if this discussion is useful.


 
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J.M. Garg

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May 12, 2008, 2:57:10 AM5/12/08
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Thanks, Sachin ji.
I am also certainly confused as I think common name Custard/ Sugar Apple is used commonly both for Annona reticulata as well as Annona squamosa. But I think it's Annona reticulata as per the Wikipedia link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custard-apple, some extracts of which I am reproducing:

The Custard-apple (Annona reticulata; also called bullock's heart or bull's heart) is a species of Annona. A similar fruit, the sugar-apple (Annona squamosa), is also called the sweetsop or, in Vietnamese, na. In Britain Custard-apple refers to cherimoya (Annona cherimola).

The tree that bears these fruits is a small deciduous or semi-evergreen tree sometimes reaching 10 metres (33 ft) tall and a native of the tropical New World that prefers low elevations, and a warm, humid climate. It also occurs as feral populations in many parts of the world including Southeast Asia, Taiwan, India, Australia, and Africa.[citation needed]

The fruits are variable in shape, heart shaped, oblong or irregular. The size ranges from 7 centimetres (2.8 in) to 12 centimetres (4.7 in). When ripe, the fruit is brown or yellowish, with red highlights and a varying degree of reticulation, depending on variety. The flavor is sweet and pleasant, but inferior to that of the cherimoya or sugar-apple. The latter fruit is sometimes confused with this species.[citation needed]

The fruits are tasty and nutritious but all parts of this tree can be useful.

Food
The fruit is good to eat as is but also makes a sweet drink and can be used as a milk substitute.[2]
Medicinal
The unripe fruit[1] has been used to assist against diarrhea and dysentery. The tree bark is used for skin and mucosae medicines and the seed bark contains useful tannins and astringents. The leaves are generally healing and have been used against tumors and cancers. [2] The bark has been used on gums to relieve toothache.[1]
Other
The leaves also provide ingredients used to make dyes, stains, inks, tattoos and mordants. The whole plant is a source of hydrogen cyanide.[2][3]


 

maravijnani

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May 12, 2008, 7:19:21 AM5/12/08
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The scientific name is Annona reticulata (family : Annonaceae).
Common name is bullock's heart bull's heart in English; Ramphal in
Hindi. Fruits when mature are red in colour. Fruit pulp is eaten
fresh as well as used for juices and sherbets. Leaves and green
fruits used for making tea with anti diarrheic and sedative
properties. Seeds insecticidal.
Dr. M.Swamy

On May 12, 11:57 am, "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Sachin ji.
> I am also certainly confused as I think common name Custard/ Sugar Apple is
> used commonly both for *Annona
> reticulata*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annona_reticulata> as
> well as *Annona squamosa* <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annona_squamosa>.
> But I think it's *Annona
> reticulata*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annona_reticulata> as
> per the Wikipedia link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custard-apple, some
> extracts of which I am reproducing:
>
> The *Custard-apple* (*Annona
> reticulata<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annona_reticulata>
> *; also called *bullock's heart* or *bull's heart*) is a species of
> *Annona<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annona>
> *. A similar fruit, the sugar-apple<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar-apple>(
> *Annona squamosa <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annona_squamosa>*), is also
> called the sweetsop or, in
> Vietnamese<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_language>,
> *na*. In Britain *Custard-apple* refers to
> cherimoya<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherimoya>(
> *Annona cherimola <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annona_cherimola>*).
>
> The tree that bears these fruits is a small deciduous or
> semi-evergreen tree<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree>sometimes
> reaching 10
> metres <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre> (33
> ft<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_%28length%29>)
> tall and a native of the tropical New
> World<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World>that prefers low
> elevations, and a warm, humid climate. It also occurs as
> feral <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral> populations in many parts of the
> world including Southeast Asia, Taiwan, India, Australia, and Africa.[*citation
> needed <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed>*]
>
> The fruits <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit> are variable in shape, heart
> shaped, oblong or irregular. The size ranges from 7
> centimetres<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centimetre>(2.8
> in <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inch>) to 12
> centimetres<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centimetre>(4.7
> in <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inch>). When ripe, the fruit is brown or
> yellowish, with red highlights and a varying degree of reticulation,
> depending on variety. The flavor is sweet and pleasant, but inferior to that
> of the cherimoya <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherimoya> or
> sugar-apple<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar-apple>.
> The latter fruit is sometimes confused with this species.[*citation
> needed<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed>
> *]
>
> The fruits are tasty and nutritious but all parts of this tree can be
> useful.
> *Food* The fruit is good to eat as is but also makes a sweet drink and can
> be used as a milk substitute <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_substitute>.
> [2] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custard-apple#cite_note-aluka-1> *
> Medicinal* The unripe
> fruit[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custard-apple#cite_note-newcrops-0>has
> been used to assist against
> diarrhea <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diarrhea> and
> dysentery<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysentery>.
> The tree bark is used for skin <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin> and
> mucosae <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucous_membrane> medicines and the
> seed bark contains useful tannins <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tannins> and
> astringents <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astringent>. The leaves are
> generally healing and have been used against
> tumors<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumor>and
> cancers <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer>.
> [2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custard-apple#cite_note-aluka-1>The
> bark has been used on gums to relieve toothache.
> [1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custard-apple#cite_note-newcrops-0> *Other
> * The leaves also provide ingredients used to make
> dyes<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dye>,
> stains <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stain>,
> inks<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ink>,
> tattoos <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tattoo> and
> mordants<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordant>.
> The whole plant is a source of hydrogen
> cyanide<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_cyanide>
> .[2] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custard-apple#cite_note-aluka-1>[3]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custard-apple#cite_note-neglectedcrops-2>
>
> On 5/12/08, sachin pandhare <pandhare.sac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > We call it RaamPhal in marathi.
> > we call custard apple to be SeetPhal
>
> > i am sure that it will belong to custard apple family in some way :
> > Annonaceae??
>
> > pls checkhttp://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/custard_apple.html
>
> > also check if this discussion is useful.
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/goa...@goanet.org/msg03238.html
>
> > Sachin
>
> > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:15 AM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On 16/3/08 at Jayanti, Duars, West Bengal. It is locally called Aathaphal
> >> & eaten. May anybody tell its scientific name?
> >> --
> >> With regards,
> >> J.M.Garg
> >> "We often ignore the beauty around us"
> >> For learning about our trees & plants, please visit/ join Google e-group
> >> (Indiantreepix)http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en
> >> For my Birds, Butterflies, Trees, Landscape pictures etc., visit
> >>http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/J.M.Garg
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
> "We often ignore the beauty around us"
> For learning about our trees & plants, please visit/ join Google e-group
> (Indiantreepix)http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en

Anand Kumar Bhatt

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May 12, 2008, 10:54:21 AM5/12/08
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Seetaphal is sharifa. wilkepedia names it as sugar apple. Ramphal obviously belongs to the same family which is known as annona reticulata, whereas seetaphal is annona squamosa. Seetaphal is knobby, whereaas Ramphal is smooth on the top. Seetaphal is more tasty.
Best wishes,
akbhatt 

vijay kiyawat

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May 12, 2008, 11:46:07 AM5/12/08
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and ramphal is more sweet you would agree?
-v


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sibda...@gmail.com

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May 12, 2008, 1:03:05 PM5/12/08
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Has anybody got an idea- why they are called Sita Phal / Ram Phal. In
Bengal they are called Ata / Nona (respectively?)- Sibdas Ghosh

On May 12, 8:46 pm, vijay kiyawat <vijaykiya...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> and ramphal is more sweet you would agree?
> -v
>
>
>
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> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:24:21 PM
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>
> Seetaphal is sharifa. wilkepedia names it as sugar apple. Ramphal obviously belongs to the same family which is known as annona reticulata, whereas seetaphal is annona squamosa. Seetaphal is knobby, whereaas Ramphal is smooth on the top. Seetaphal is more tasty.
> Best wishes,
> akbhatt
>
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:36 AM, sachin pandhare <pandhare.sac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We call it RaamPhal in marathi.
> we call custard apple to be SeetPhal
>
> i am sure that it will belong to custard apple family in some way : Annonaceae??
>
> pls checkhttp://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/custard_apple.html
>
> also check if this discussion is useful.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/goa...@goanet.org/msg03238.html
>
> Sachin
>
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:15 AM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 16/3/08 at Jayanti, Duars, West Bengal. It is locally called Aathaphal & eaten. May anybody tell its scientific name?
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
> "We often ignore the beauty around us"
> For learning about our trees & plants, please visit/ join Google e-group (Indiantreepix)http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en
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nabha meghani

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May 13, 2008, 5:57:14 AM5/13/08
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Hallo Garg ji,
you have made the excel-table in indian tree pics. i would like to see two
more columns to that. one for local names with the locan name AND language,
the other column for Dantakatha (legends, stories, myths etc.). Just a
suggestion, if it is possible!
regards
nalini

Anand Kumar Bhatt

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May 13, 2008, 8:28:35 AM5/13/08
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Hardly, Vijay.
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