Hooghly-sept-sk02 : unidentified mushroom, seemingly non-edible

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surajit koley

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Sep 17, 2014, 1:45:55 AM9/17/14
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Photographed today (17-Sept-2014) this mushroom grows every year at the same place and very similar fashion. This time one of those takes a gigantic size. I have earlier post of this one, yet to be resolved, but I fail to find the thread right now.

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 21, 2014, 8:34:49 AM9/21/14
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please

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Ushadi Micromini

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Sep 21, 2014, 9:20:19 AM9/21/14
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oyster mushrooms

if thats correct id then.. i think the spores flew out of the culturing facilities which often are bathrooms and other wet dark extra rooms in bengal households. A few years ago there was a lot of  educational grants given to NGOs  to teach poor families to grow them to supplement their income. 

search google for "Oyster mushroom in cultivation" and you'll see pictures showing not only the shelf like form but also longer stalked ones.

older ones get a bit darker/browner.

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Nabha Meghani

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Sep 21, 2014, 10:47:08 AM9/21/14
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From family Clitocybe
But in
Clitocybe there are so many varieties, that ist is difficult to identify.
I thought of Clitocybe maxima, but am not so sure.Surajit ji,
you have made fotos from all sides of the mushrooms, that is how fotos should be sent for id.

some more information is helpful. For example, break the cap, the stem and watch if it changes the color.
Also helpful to know, where the mushrooms are growing, under or near a perticular tree, darker place or open land.
Also if you can smell it, and what sort of smell good / bad / pungent.

But sorry i don't have a clue, what this mushroom could be.
Regards
Nalini

surajit koley

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Sep 21, 2014, 11:31:47 AM9/21/14
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Thank you Nabha Ji, Usha Di, I could find the earlier post I submitted in 2013 - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/TDZN4090q1A/EXv4aIc7bUIJ

A similar looking mushroom was identified as Lentinus squarrosulus Mont. in https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/iB3g5oG7Gok

"Edible Mushroom of Bengal", a booklet in Bengali, informs Pleurotus squarrosulus (Mont.) Sing can be found in Midnapore, 24-parganas, Bankura and Burdwan Districts. I do not know if it can be found in Hooghly also. Else the habit, described in the book, I think matches perfectly.

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surajit

Ushadi Micromini

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Sep 22, 2014, 4:32:00 AM9/22/14
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look at this Surajit
some of the growers are right there in your neighborhood...
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140117/jsp/howrah/story_17830304.jsp

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Ushadi Micromini

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Sep 22, 2014, 4:34:07 AM9/22/14
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sorry forgot to include this...
this guy ran into the mushrooms like you did...
http://hikersnotebook.net/Oyster+Mushroom
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surajit koley

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Sep 22, 2014, 11:38:34 AM9/22/14
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Didi,

Udaynarayanpur is in Howrah, about 40 km from my place. However, I am familiar with the mushroom displayed in the last pic down the webpage. The one in this thread is some other species.

Thank you

Regards


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surajit koley

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Sep 22, 2014, 11:46:03 AM9/22/14
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Didi, again the photograph in the second link seems to be different mushroom. The stipe in my species is attached at the middle/centre of the cap.

Thank you and regards

Ushadi Micromini

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Sep 22, 2014, 1:11:13 PM9/22/14
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Surajit

so what do you think it is?
you have had a lot of time to do search and think...so far...


AND..
I agree ID of mushrooms can be quite tricky, that's why on hiking trails to learn about mushrooms in USA and Europe one is always warned not to eat anything unless an expert identifies a mushroom, things that look alike may not be really the same...


hope we have mushroom expert or two who can id your mushroom from pic...
oyster mushrooms also need to be crushed and smelled if I am not mistaken and plucked and observed  for other features.

Oyster mushrooms aslo have different forms as it emeeges lateraally from a dead wood or in case of culture for selling from the plastic bag holes or the hay bundle, then as it grows slowly developes a stalk ...

etc etc

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surajit koley

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Sep 22, 2014, 10:30:08 PM9/22/14
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Good morning Didi

This mushroom isn't as fleshy as the one in my another post or the one in The Telegraph article. The one in that article is grown in places in Hooghly, though I haven't visited any growing site, I ate a number of times.

This mushroom rather fits the description of P. squarrosulus - "grows in community on decayed trunk in villages during rainy season..... since they are not fleshy they have a little or no preference on dinner table."

But it can be Clitocybe as suggested by Nalini Ji, for images found look similar and Clitocybe geotropa is found in WB as per articles found in the net..... but I am not sure.

Thank you
Regards

surajit koley

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Sep 23, 2014, 12:24:52 AM9/23/14
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Madam,

This is the current state, after a heavy rain during the past two days, of this mushroom. It grows on a trunk remnant of a mango tree. This mushroom has no particular smell. This time I have noted a central fleshy axis inside the stipe.

Thank you very much
Regards
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Ushadi Micromini

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Sep 24, 2014, 1:40:52 PM9/24/14
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well
Surajit
this new set of pictures is definitely not oyster mushrooms

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surajit koley

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Sep 24, 2014, 9:47:29 PM9/24/14
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Good morning and thank you Didi.

Regards

Nabha Meghani

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Sep 25, 2014, 6:04:25 AM9/25/14
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I still feel it is NOT oyster but Clitocybe.

Am 24.09.2014 19:40, schrieb Ushadi Micromini:
well
Surajit
this new set of pictures is definitely not  mushrooms

usha di

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:54 AM, surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com> wrote:
Madam,

This is the current state, after a heavy rain during the past two days, of this mushroom. It grows on a trunk remnant of a mango tree. This mushroom has no particular smell. This time I have noted a central fleshy axis inside the stipe.

Thank you very much
Regards
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:59 AM, surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com> wrote:
Good morning Didi

This mushroom isn't as fleshy as the one in my another post or the one in The Telegraph article. The one in that article is grown in places in Hooghly, though I haven't visited any growing site, I ate a number of times.

This mushroom rather fits the description of P. squarrosulus - "grows in community on decayed trunk in villages during rainy season..... since they are not fleshy they have a little or no preference on dinner table."

But it can be  as suggested by Nalini Ji, for images found look similar and Clitocybe geotropa is found in WB as per articles found in the net..... but I am not sure.

Thank you
Regards





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surajit koley

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Sep 25, 2014, 12:24:09 PM9/25/14
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Thank you very much Madam, I save it as Clitocybe sp.

Regards

J.M. Garg

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Mar 31, 2019, 6:12:14 AM3/31/19
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I think more close to images at Lentinus squarrosulus Mont.

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Photographed today (17-Sept-2014) this mushroom grows every year at the same place and very similar fashion. This time one of those takes a gigantic size. I have earlier post of this one, yet to be resolved, but I fail to find the thread right now.

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J.M. Garg

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Mar 31, 2019, 6:12:44 AM3/31/19
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I think more close to images at Lentinus squarrosulus Mont.

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