Unknown Climber from Manipur

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Sanjoy Mutum

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Jan 27, 2023, 8:06:37 AM1/27/23
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Dear members, kindly suggest the species of this scandent shrub/climber (stem is covered with recurved prickles).
September, 2021

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 27, 2023, 9:15:05 AM1/27/23
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Check in Vitaceae.
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Saroj Kasaju

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Jan 27, 2023, 11:01:29 AM1/27/23
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Rubus??
What are the Vitaceae species having spines on stem ??

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 27, 2023, 8:54:28 PM1/27/23
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I do not think it appears like a rubus?


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radha veach

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Jan 28, 2023, 9:12:56 PM1/28/23
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It reminds me of Toddalia except here there are 5 leaflets.
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J.M. Garg

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Jan 28, 2023, 10:42:12 PM1/28/23
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Thanks, Radha ji



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Sanjoy Mutum

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Jan 31, 2023, 7:40:36 AM1/31/23
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Yes, Toddalia was also observed in the area.

J.M. Garg

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Feb 1, 2023, 6:22:41 AM2/1/23
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I think this is Eleutherococcus leucorrhizus var. fulvescens (Harms & Rehder) Nakai as per keys in Flora of China and FoC illustration and distribution in BSI flora of India and GBIF specimens (one and two). 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 1, 2023, 6:40:09 AM2/1/23
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Or more close to Eleutherococcus leucorrhizus var. scaberulus (Harms & Rehder) Nakai ???
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J.M. Garg

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Feb 2, 2023, 3:19:36 AM2/2/23
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Keys do not agree for that.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 2, 2023, 6:51:32 AM2/2/23
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OK Mr. Garg !
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Mahadeswara

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Feb 2, 2023, 7:00:58 AM2/2/23
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Please check this link :  https://indiabiodiversity.org/group/VNCIndia/observation/show/16487108.  I am not sure Only a suggestion.

Saroj Kasaju

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Feb 2, 2023, 7:18:38 AM2/2/23
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It is not. It has got no spines.
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J.M. Garg

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Feb 2, 2023, 8:40:24 AM2/2/23
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No, it is different from the given link.

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J.M. Garg

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Feb 2, 2023, 9:34:29 AM2/2/23
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Thanks for the clarification.
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