Cirsium falconeri from Pahalgam, Kashmir for validation-GS02022022-2

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 2, 2022, 2:58:49 AM1/2/22
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Here is another population from Pahalgam Kashmir, alt. 2800 m, which appears C. falconeri with very clear woolly heads of C. falconeri, but more stunted plants and somewhat clustered heads, 23-6-2011.




Dr. Gurcharan Singh
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SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
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J.M. Garg

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Jan 2, 2022, 3:16:01 AM1/2/22
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No, I do not agree. No nodding heads.
I think C. argyracanthum (POWO)- as per POWO specimen one, two (based on my views at Cirsium argyracanthum from Himachal Pradesh-GS31122021-3)

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 2, 2022, 4:25:43 AM1/2/22
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Maybe a lot of threads (looking similar to your this post) also needs to be moved from our page at Cirsium wallichii as these look different from POWO specimens- one, two, three to C. argyracanthum (POWO)- specimen one, two
It is sometimes difficult to judge the size of heads in close up images. A habit image gives a better perspective.
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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 2, 2022, 4:47:13 AM1/2/22
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C wallichii is very distinctive Garg ji.





Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

J.M. Garg

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Jan 2, 2022, 4:59:13 AM1/2/22
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What do you say about the following?:
I think C. argyracanthum (POWO)- as per POWO specimen one, two (based on my views at Cirsium argyracanthum from Himachal Pradesh-GS31122021-3)
It is sometimes difficult to judge the size of heads in close up images. A habit image gives a better perspective.
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