24032011 Pj 5 Id confirmation

[PUTTARAJU K]

Dear All,

Pl find attached penisetum setosum, Id conformation requested.
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With Regards,
PUTTARAJU K,
SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
KARNATAKA -581400
MOB : 9448999150
EMAIL : pakshir...@gmail.com
kputt...@npcil.co.in

[Gurcharan Singh]

Puttaraju ji

Kindly mention habitat. P. setosum is usually cultivated, taller with longer and thicker spikes.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Kindly mention habitat. P. setosum is usually cultivated, taller with longer and thicker spikes.

--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

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With regards,
J.M.Garg (jmg...@gmail.com)
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[PUTTARAJU K]

Dr.Gurucharan Ji,

Its on the bank of a pond in kaiga & water lasts throughout the year.Sorry for the late reply.

Regards

Puttaraju

[H S]

Please also check with P. orientalis??

regards,

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 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of stone

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
“Kindly mention habitat. P. setosum is usually cultivated, taller with longer and thicker spikes.
--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

 

"Its on the bank of a pond in kaiga & water lasts throughout the year.Sorry for the late reply.

Regards
Puttaraju"

 

"Please also check with P. orientalis??" from HS ji.

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From: PUTTARAJU K <pakshir...@gmail.com>
Date: 24 March 2011 22:34
Subject: [efloraofindia:65596] 24032011 Pj 5 Id confirmation
To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>

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With regards,
J.M.Garg (jmg...@gmail.com)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1740 members & 90,000 messages on 31/10/11) or Efloraofindia website: https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of more than 6000 species).

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. 

[H S]

yes its Pennisetum orientalis, check description in cooke's flora

regards,

[J.M. Garg]

A reply:

"DEar taxonomists,
 
The picture  (grass) looks like P. purpureum - a common fodder grass often found as a feild escape. But confirmation is a must by disecting the spikelets. However, I am sure that was not P. orientalis which is usually grown as a ornamental garden grass. 

Dr. P. Ravichandran"

 

Thanks, Dr. Ravichandran.

[J.M. Garg]

A reply from Nirbhay ji:

"Pennisetum pedicellatum Trin."

 

Thanks, Nirbhay ji.

On 7 November 2011 16:43, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

[J.M. Garg]

A reply:

"Dear members
i also go with Nirbhay ji
 
pennisetum pedicellatum

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regards
Dr.Anil Kumar"

[H S]

i still go with P. orientale and not Pennisetum purpureum which is quite tall grass

regards,

[Gurcharan Singh]

I agree with H S that it can't be P. purpureum which is a much taller grass with much broader leaves and dense inflorescence

.

http://www.moa.gov.jm/img/Pennisetum%20purpureum.JPG

http://www.google.co.in/imgres?q=Pennisetum+purpureum&um=1&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=675&tbm=isch&tbnid=b5YvasgHLumnEM:&imgrefurl=http://www.flowersinisrael.com/Pennisetumpurpureum_page.htm&docid=I5R4bQZh__ijYM&imgurl=http://www.flowersinisrael.com/Flowgallery/Pennisetum_purpureum_flower2.jpg&w=600&h=400&ei=vUW6TtCHAeHg4QTQgMWVCA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=661&sig=109720331385994405203&page=1&tbnh=135&tbnw=175&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0&tx=87&ty=66

It is also not P. setaceum a South African grass with dense spike and stiffer short bristles, often cultivated in gardens.

http://www.californiagardens.com/Plant_Pages/pennisetum_setaceum_rubrum.htm

Pennisetum pedicellatum and P. orientale are closely similar but the spikelets in P. orientale are much separated, rachis hairy and bristles much longer and plumose.

http://www.calfloranursery.com/images/pics/p/pennisetum_orientale.jpg

I am also attaching my photograph of P. orientale from Kashmir and P. setaceum from California for comparison

The more denser arrangement of spikelets and shorter bristles suggests P. pedicellatum for above plant as indicated by Nirbay ji and Anil ji, out expert on grasses.

http://fleurs.cirad.fr/fleurs_d_afrique_tropicale/p/pennisetum_pedicellatum

You may please compare above and give your opinion

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

[H S]

sirji your photo of P. orientale look quite different,, very interesting

regards,

[Hemanth]

I feel this is pennisetum pedicellatum

On Nov 9, 2:49 pm, H S <hemsan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> sirji your photo of P. orientale look quite different,, very interesting
>
> regards,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I agree with H S that it can't be P. purpureum which is a much taller
> > grass with much broader leaves and dense inflorescence
> > .
>
> >http://www.moa.gov.jm/img/Pennisetum%20purpureum.JPG
>

> >http://www.google.co.in/imgres?q=Pennisetum+purpureum&um=1&hl=en&biw=...

>
> > It is also not P. setaceum a South African grass with dense spike and
> > stiffer short bristles, often cultivated in gardens.
>

> >http://www.californiagardens.com/Plant_Pages/pennisetum_setaceum_rubr...

>
> > Pennisetum pedicellatum and P. orientale are closely similar but the
> > spikelets in P. orientale are much separated, rachis hairy and bristles
> > much longer and plumose.
>
> >http://www.calfloranursery.com/images/pics/p/pennisetum_orientale.jpg
>
> > I am also attaching my photograph of P. orientale from Kashmir and P.
> > setaceum from California for comparison
>
> > The more denser arrangement of spikelets and shorter bristles suggests P.
> > pedicellatum for above plant as indicated by Nirbay ji and Anil ji, out
> > expert on grasses.
>

> >http://fleurs.cirad.fr/fleurs_d_afrique_tropicale/p/pennisetum_pedice...

>
> > You may please compare above and give your opinion
>
> > --
> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired  Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>

> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:10 PM, H S <hemsan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> i still go with P. orientale and not Pennisetum purpureum which is quite
> >> tall grass
>
> >> regards,
>

> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 5:19 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> A reply:
> >>> "Dear members
> >>> i also go with Nirbhay ji
>
> >>> pennisetum pedicellatum
>
> >>> --
> >>> regards
> >>> Dr.Anil Kumar"
>

> >>> On 8 November 2011 10:20, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> A reply from Nirbhay ji:
> >>>> "Pennisetum pedicellatum Trin."
>
> >>>> Thanks, Nirbhay ji.
>

> >>>>  On 7 November 2011 16:43, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>  Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
> >>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:

> >>>>> “Kindly mention habitat.* P. setosum is usually cultivated, taller

> >>>>> with longer and thicker spikes.

> >>>>> *--

> >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh”
>
> >>>>>  "Its on the bank of a pond in kaiga & water lasts throughout the
> >>>>> year.Sorry for the late reply.
>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> Puttaraju"
>

> >>>>> "Please also *check with P. orientalis*??" from HS ji.

>
> >>>>>  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>> From: PUTTARAJU K <pakshirajka...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> Date: 24 March 2011 22:34
> >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:65596] 24032011 Pj 5 Id confirmation
> >>>>> To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>
>
> >>>>>  Dear All,
>
> >>>>> Pl find attached penisetum setosum, Id conformation requested.
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> With Regards,
> >>>>> PUTTARAJU K,
> >>>>> SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
> >>>>> KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
> >>>>> POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
> >>>>> KARNATAKA -581400
> >>>>> MOB : 9448999150

> >>>>> EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
> >>>>>             kputtar...@npcil.co.in
>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> With regards,
> >>>>> J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)

> >>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

> >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand
> >>>>> species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.

> >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise):
> >>>>>http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
> >>>>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image
> >>>>> .
> >>>>>  For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
> >>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:

> >>>>>http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix(more than 1740

> >>>>> members & 90,000 messages on 31/10/11) or Efloraofindia website:

> >>>>>https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/(with a species database

> >>>>> of more than 6000 species).
> >>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
> >>>>> India'.
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> With regards,

> >>>> J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)

> >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species
> >>>> * & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged

> >>>> alphabetically & place-wise):
> >>>>http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
> >>>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
> >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:

> >>>>http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix(more than 1740 members

> >>>> & 90,000 messages on 31/10/11) or Efloraofindia website:

> >>>>https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/(with a species database

> >>>> of more than 6000 species).
> >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
> >>>> India'.
>
> >>> --
> >>> With regards,

> >>> J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)

> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged

> >>> alphabetically & place-wise):
> >>>http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
> >>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian
> >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:

> >>>http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix(more than 1740 members

> >>> & 90,000 messages on 31/10/11) or Efloraofindia website:

> >>>https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/(with a species database

[JM Garg]

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From: PUTTARAJU K <pakshir...@gmail.com>

Date: Thursday 24 March, 2011 at 10:34:43 pm UTC+5:30
Subject: 24032011 Pj 5 Id confirmation
To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>

[J.M. Garg]

I think this appears to be
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/19/pennisetum-pedicellatum/

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From: PUTTARAJU K <pakshir...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 at 22:34
Subject: [efloraofindia:65596] 24032011 Pj 5 Id confirmation
To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Manoj ji

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From: Manoj Chandran 
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 at 16:38
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:65596] 24032011 Pj 5 Id confirmation
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Pennisetum pedicellatum

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With regards,
J.M.Garg