11/05/2011/YRP/01/ Naoroz Estate Chethalayam, Wayanad, Kerala
Yazdy Palia
Date & Time 11/05/2011
Location: Place, Altitude, GPS Chethalayam, Wayanad.
Habitat: Garden, Urban, Wild Type: Garden
Plant Habit: Tree, Shrub, Climber, Herb Tree
Height, Length.
Leaves Type, Shape, Size
Inflorescence Type Size
Flowers Size Colour Calyx Bracts-
Fruits Type, Shape, Size Seeds
Other Information like Frangrance, Pollinator, Uses.
Regards
Yazdy.
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ajinkya gadave
Family: Myrtaceae
Malay Apple, Macopa, Otaheite Apple, Pomarosa, Manzana
Origin: Malaysia
Mahadeswara
pinkish red. Is this a variant or Could this be Syzygium samarangense
syn. Syzygium javanicum, Eugenia javanica. ( link
http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/syzygium_samarangense.htm )
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Yazdy Palia
Regards
Yazdy.
Yazdy Palia
http://www.google.co.in/search?q=Syzygium+samarangense&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___IN364
Regards
Yazdy.
Ushadi micromini
red and white incarnations.....
Usha di...
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On May 12, 9:45 am, Yazdy Palia <yazdypa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Mahadeshwara Ji, I think you are right, here is a linkhttp://www.google.co.in/search?q=Syzygium+samarangense&ie=utf-8&oe=ut...
> Regards
> Yazdy.
Yazdy Palia
Rose apple that I know actually have the flavour of Roses. This fruit
does not.
Regards
Yazdy.
mani nair
Yazdy Palia
champa or something like that. These fruits are edible and please
check the link copied below
http://www.google.co.in/search?q=Syzygium+samarangense&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___IN364
There is a larger variety which is white in colour and whose flowers
are scarlet red. I will post those pictures in a different thread. I
do not have the fruits but got some pictures of the tree yesterday
along with the flowers.
Regards
Yazdy.
Pudji Widodo
Some days ago Dinesh Valke wrote about the differences between
Syzygium aqueum & S. samarangense, where the first one has fruit cone-
shaped, glossy white to red, while S. samarangense has larger pyriform
fruits. Thus:
IMG_6369.JPG should be Syzygium aqueum (Burm. f.) Alston
I will add another special character for S. aqueum is the ACIDIC
FRUIT.
Pudji Widodo
Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA
Ushadi micromini
Dear Yadji ji : Oh, OK.... that's nice....
but rose apple I have seen in some nurseries and gardens on either
coast ... if labelled as rose apple...also have ROSE RED flowers.....
Your picture shows white flowers... this combination of white flowers
and red jamun superficially (based on these 3 pics only) seems to be
very similar to the one growing and labeled in the AGRI-Hort garden in
Kolkata... that's the source of my visual ID...
Taxonomists at eflora could all help in differentiating these
varieties, I thank them inadvance... as to the varities, and
id ....factors etc...
Regards
Usha di.
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On May 12, 11:31 am, Ushadi micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com>
wrote:
J.M. Garg
Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
Some earlier relevant feedback:
“Syzygium malaccense, Eugenia malaccensis, Family: Myrtaceae
Malay Apple, Macopa, Otaheite Apple, Pomarosa, Manzana
Origin: Malaysia” from Ajinkya ji.
“In Syzygium malaccense, or Eugenia malaccensis,the flowers will be pinkish red. Is this a variant or Could this be Syzygium samarangense syn. Syzygium javanicum, Eugenia javanica. ( link
http://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/syzygium_samarangense.htm )” from Mahadeswara ji.
“Thank you Mahadeshwara Ji, I think you are right, here is a link
http://www.google.co.in/search?q=Syzygium+samarangense&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___IN364
Regards
Yazdy.”
Here is the earlier threads as pointed out by Pudji ji:
The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
Ushadi micromini
Knowing what I know NOW ..... some clarity and some more
confusion???
SEVERAL POINTS:
POINT 1): This is wax jambu in these pictures ... the size and
exact shape of the fruit is not visible...
the rose colored ones are often labeled " rose apple" in local
supermarkets...
ie it must be a local or colloquial name...... hence the confusion....
POINT 2): Another confusion is taste of the fruit... some fruits ,
some years from the same tree, produce fruits with nice sweet/sour
(very dilute of course) taste... some years its just flat... this year
it was of flat tasting fruits...
POINT 3): BUT THE REAL ROSE APPLE IS A DIFFERENT FRUIT
ALTOGETHER, as Yadzy Ji pointed out ....
AND I HAVE ALREADY PRESENTED A DETAILED PHOTOGRAPHIC DEPICTION OF WHAT
IS A REAL ROSE JAMBU or ROSE APPLE... that has a definite ROSE scent
and from which a rose essence was extracted in the 1840s... PLEASE
SEE MY ORIGINAL THREAD at
http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/c29f5c6969c3eca4/58806f4c38adca6f?lnk=gst&q=usha+di+Rose+apple#58806f4c38adca6f
The trees and their flowers and fruits I presented were identified by
established botanical gardens (arboretums... ) run by
universities....in California... no mistakes there... AND the fruits
I presented I ate them myself... VERY PLEASANT rose scent and mouth
feel very different from the WAX JAMBU..regardless of color.... and
regardless of colloquial names be it rose apple or rose jambu or
whatever...
***
POINT 4) : I have some pictures of flowers of a properly identified
tree labeled * Syzygium samarangense*
at Kolkata Botanical Garden ... flowers are definitely white and
fruits were also white.... since none were seen fallen on the
ground..local urchins collect them asap... I do not have pictures of
fruits fallen out of that tree... and now will have to wait till next
spring and early summer.....
POINT 5): FOR further classification: I think one needs better
depiction of the fruits that clearly shows the neck and overall shape
of the fruit... size..
Though I think a lot of variation is possible...
MAY I PLEASE SUGGEST that .... JADZY Ji send us full side-view of the
fruits, size, and a cut surface picture so that the shape can be
judged,,,,
POINT 6) : and PERHAPS the more important point is ... just like
Hydrangeas.. and perhaps other plants... the colors of the flowers
(and perhaps the fruits) may vary with local soil conditions, pH, and
presence / and /or absence of some metals. and micro-nutrients .....
may be some one can start a thesis project....
THANKS....
Usha di
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On Aug 21, 1:09 pm, "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> Origin: Malaysia” from Ajinkya ji.
>
> pinkish red*. Is this a variant or Could this be Syzygium samarangense syn.
> Syzygium javanicum, Eugenia javanica. ( linkhttp://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/syzygium_samarangense.htm)” from
> Mahadeswara ji.
>
> “Thank you Mahadeshwara Ji, I think you are right, here is a linkhttp://www.google.co.in/search?q=Syzygium+samarangense&ie=utf-8&oe=ut...
> Yazdy.”
>
> "Some days ago Dinesh Valke wrote about the differences between Syzygium
> aqueum & S. samarangense, where the first one has fruit cone-shaped, glossy
> white to red, while S. samarangense has larger pyriform fruits.
> Pudji Widodo"
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/2c...
> alphabetically & place-wise):http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them
> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> 75,000 messages on 31/7/11) or Efloraofindia website:https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/(with a species database
>
>
>
Yazdy Palia
The pictures on your link are indeed the rose apple I was referring
to. I have seen a slightly purple variety and a yellow variety. Both
are sweet, unlike the sour sweet taste of the fruits in my pictures.
Regards.
Yazdy Palia.
Smilax004
L.M.Perry (Java Apple) of Myrtaceae family.
http://anthrome.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/myrtaceae-syzygium-melaccense-water-apple/syzygium/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syzygium_samarangense
http://www.worldagroforestrycentre.org/sea/Products/AFDbases/AF/asp/SpeciesInfo.asp?SpID=18099
http://www.montosogardens.com/syzygium_samarangense.htm
Regards,
Giby
On Aug 21, 1:09 pm, "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> “*Syzygium malaccense*, Eugenia malaccensis, Family: Myrtaceae
> Malay Apple, Macopa, Otaheite Apple, Pomarosa, Manzana
> Origin: Malaysia” from Ajinkya ji.
>
> “*In Syzygium malaccense, or Eugenia malaccensis,the flowers will be
> pinkish red*. Is this a variant or Could this be Syzygium samarangense syn.
> Syzygium javanicum, Eugenia javanica. ( linkhttp://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/syzygium_samarangense.htm)” from
> Mahadeswara ji.
>
> “Thank you Mahadeshwara Ji, I think you are right, here is a linkhttp://www.google.co.in/search?q=Syzygium+samarangense&ie=utf-8&oe=ut...
> Regards
> Yazdy.”
>
> "Some days ago Dinesh Valke wrote about the differences between Syzygium
> aqueum & S. samarangense, where the first one has fruit cone-shaped, glossy
> white to red, while S. samarangense has larger pyriform fruits.
> Thus: IMG_6369.JPG should be *Syzygium aqueum* (Burm. f.) Alston
> I will add another special character for S. aqueum is the ACIDIC FRUIT.
> Pudji Widodo"
>
> Here is the earlier threads as pointed out by Pudji ji:https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/9d...
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/2c...
> J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* &
> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
> alphabetically & place-wise):http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them
> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix(more than 1680 members &
> 75,000 messages on 31/7/11) or Efloraofindia website:https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/(with a species database
> of more than 5000 species)
>
>
>
J.M. Garg
picture no 1 - 20 = Syzygium samarangense,
21 - 25 = S. malaccense, and
no 26 = S. samarangense. Next time I will send you the pictures of my Syzygium.
Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman