Identification.

[Suresh Brar]

Please identification this one taken at Himachal Pradesh.
july 2011.Please kindly id.
Regards
Suresh

[tanay bose]

Primula macrophylla?

Tanay

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“Primula macrophylla?
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[Alok Mahendroo]

Does Look like it.. although would like to see Gurcharan ji's view on
this..
regards
Alok
On Sun, 2011-10-16 at 15:27 +0530, J.M. Garg wrote:
> Primula macrophylla
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[Dr Pankaj Kumar]

This should be Primula macrophylla var. moocroftiana.
The white centre in the flowers is evident in the pic.
Pankaj

On Oct 16, 7:26 pm, Alok Mahendroo <alokisabe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does Look like it.. although would like to see Gurcharan ji's view on
> this..
> regards

> AlokOn Sun, 2011-10-16 at 15:27 +0530, J.M. Garg wrote:
> > Primula macrophylla
>
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> Himalayan Village Education Trust
> Village Khudgot,
> P.O. Dalhousie
> District Chamba
> H.P. 176304, India
>

> www.hivetrust.wordpress.comwww.forwildlife.wordpress.comhttp://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new...

[chrischa...@btinternet.com]

I consider this has been correctly identified but apply a slightly different name drawing attention to the unpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk, University of Tromso, Norway (Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden).  The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA (sensu lato - meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has troubled botanists and specialist growers for more than a century.

Elvebakk has recognised a separate taxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German botanist who first collected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh in the 19th Century).  It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some other regions.  Hopefully the full details will be published in the not-too-distant future.

Anyhow, I am in support of the separation of P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensu stricto (in the strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species.

The image taken in Himachal Pradesh fits with what I currently consider to be typical Primula moorcroftiana (syn. Primula macrophylla var. moorcroftiana).  I have observed both P.macrophylla and P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang.  P.moorcrotiana is mostly found from 4000-4500m (I have not been higher but it may well grow at higher

altitudes) whereas P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m.

Please note that I have observed and photographed Primulas of this complex in the Kashmir Valley which do not fit either P.moorcroftiana, P.macrophylla or P.meeboldii - thus at least one more taxon is involved.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Chadwell ji

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