Cirsium verutum from Ranikhet, Uttarakhand-GS02012022-3

[Gurcharan Singh]

Cirsium verutum (D Don) Spreng

Syn: C. involucratum DC,, Nom. Illeg.; Cnicus involucratus var. horrida Hook.f.

The species differs from C. wallichii in green involucre bracts ending in spines, outer spines longer, inner shorter, inner bracts 

not broadened at tip and without scarious margins, and heads in clusters. There is confusion in size of heads FBI and BSI Flora of India indicate larger heads 3.5-6 cm in diam., Flora of China 3-3.5 cm and Flora of Bhutan 1-1.5 cm. Heads are predominantly purple in colour.

Photographed from Ranikhet, Uttarakhand, 14-4-2012.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/

[Gurcharan Singh]

One more image

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/

[J.M. Garg]

As there are contradictions between BSI Flora of India, Flora of China and Flora of Bhutan as pointed out by you above, let us go by the specimens. 

Going by specimens of C. verutum (POWO)- one (C. involucratus of FBI) and two (C. involucratus of FBI), I feel your post look different and matches with specimens of C. argyracanthum (POWO)- one, two.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Really confusing Garg, it seems we hardly have real specimens of C. verutum in out database, even this upload by D S Rawat under C. verutum is similar to mine

ASTERACEAE Fortnight Part 2-Discoid heads: Cirsium verutum from Uttarakhand_DSR_9 (google.com)

Real C. verutum seems to be at Flowers of India.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/

[J.M. Garg]

I feel FOI images also look different and match with specimens of C. argyracanthum (POWO)- one, two.

Going by C. verutum (POWO)- one (C. involucratus of FBI) and two (C. involucratus of FBI), the following may be the real C.verutum:
Cirsium sp?? — enroute Dhel at GHNP – PKA30 

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With regards,
J.M.Garg

[Gurcharan Singh]

Leaves seem to be much more spiny and rigid, cottony underside missing even in this population uploaded by Prashant ji, as compared to POWO.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/