Begonia concanensis

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Prashant Awale

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Aug 27, 2013, 1:33:50 PM8/27/13
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Dear Friends,

Sharing photographs of  Begonia concanensis (Family: Begoniaceae).

Location: Sudhagad (Pali)

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Prashant
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Nidhan Singh

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Aug 27, 2013, 8:59:20 PM8/27/13
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Thanks Prashant Ji for sharing lovely shots..


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Dinesh Valke

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Aug 27, 2013, 11:32:59 PM8/27/13
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Adittya Dharap

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Aug 28, 2013, 12:26:09 AM8/28/13
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Dear Prashant,
 
I feel the images qualify for Begonia prixophylla.
To justify my point attached please find the images of B.concanensis & B.prixophylla.
(These are identified by me based on key and there is a possibility that I have erred).
 
The identification key is as follows (reference : Flora of Maharashtra : BSI)
 
Male sepals elliptic 1.2 cm across………… B.concanensis
Male sepals almost orbicular 2.7 cm across……. B.prixophylla
 
There is one more distinguishing character given in Flora of Maharashtra by Dr.Almeida
That the sepals in B.prixophylla are hairy (I will give the exact details later in the day).
 
 
Nevertheless the two species are very close and confusing. Apart from this the BSI flora indicates that the occurrence of B.prixophylla is Satara but the image I have posted (if it is B.prixophylla) herewith is away from Satara!
 
From this I feel that the flower images posted by you qualify for B.prixophylla rather than B.concanensis since the male sepals are more wide and orbicular (last image) and hirsute on the dorsal side.
 
This is what I feel. Maybe Shrikant ji can clear this doubt.
 
Best regards
 
Adittya Dharap





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Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 11:03 PM
Subject: [efloraofindia:163773] Begonia concanensis

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 5, 2013, 7:54:08 AM9/5/13
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:      

Dear Prashant,
 
I feel the images qualify for Begonia prixophylla.
To justify my point attached please find the images of B.concanensis & B.prixophylla.
(These are identified by me based on key and there is a possibility that I have erred).
 
The identification key is as follows (reference : Flora of Maharashtra : BSI)
 
Male sepals elliptic 1.2 cm across………… B.concanensis
Male sepals almost orbicular 2.7 cm across……. B.prixophylla
 
There is one more distinguishing character given in Flora of Maharashtra by Dr.Almeida
That the sepals in B.prixophylla are hairy (I will give the exact details later in the day). 
 
Nevertheless the two species are very close and confusing. Apart from this the BSI flora indicates that the occurrence of B.prixophylla is Satara but the image I have posted (if it is B.prixophylla) herewith is away from Satara!
 
From this I feel that the flower images posted by you qualify for B.prixophylla rather than B.concanensis since the male sepals are more wide and orbicular (last image) and hirsute on the dorsal side.
 
This is what I feel. Maybe Shrikant ji can clear this doubt.
 
Best regards
 
Adittya Dharap 

 

 



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Date: 27 August 2013 23:03
Subject: [efloraofindia:163773] Begonia concanensis

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radha veach

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Sep 5, 2013, 11:33:33 AM9/5/13
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The 2 species are very similar. According to Dr Almeida the most
obvious difference is in the size and shape of leaves with Begonia
concanensis having smaller, ovate leaves and B. prixophylla having
larger, broad leaves which are almost round.
I have found this plant a few times and had concluded that it was B.
concanensis. My photos look very much like Prashant's plant.

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Radha
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Adittya Dharap

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Sep 5, 2013, 12:10:06 PM9/5/13
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Hi Dr. Radha,
 
Thank you for your comments.
After posting the images I felt that the id cannot be conclusive by images alone and has to be supported by measurements for sepals as indicated by BSI flora key and that of leaves as indicated by Dr. Almeida in Flora of Maharashtra.
 
Nevertheless am attaching an image of leaf with bristles since the plant in question is with epithet prixophylla.
 
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radha veach

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Sep 5, 2013, 12:59:36 PM9/5/13
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Hi,

thanks for the picture of the leaves, but I am unable to open such large attachments!  Will take your word for it.
Yes, it's very difficult to be sure without live specimens.

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Radha ( not Dr )

J.M. Garg

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Sep 15, 2013, 8:11:26 AM9/15/13
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Hi,
I could not find Begonia prixophylla on net,
Is the spelling allright ?


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Prashant Awale

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Sep 15, 2013, 8:33:05 AM9/15/13
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Dear Garg ji,

Try searching for  Begonia phrixophylla...

Regards
Prashant

J.M. Garg

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Sep 15, 2013, 8:52:09 AM9/15/13
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Thanks, Prashant ji.

J.M. Garg

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Jul 22, 2021, 5:14:06 AM (10 days ago) Jul 22
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I hope this is rightly identified as B. prixophylla.
Kindly confirm or otherwise.

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 26, 2021, 8:29:03 AM (6 days ago) Jul 26
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Thanks a lot, Mark ji.

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 13:40, Mark Hughes <MHu...@rbge.org.uk> wrote:

B. phrixophylla looks like a match as far as I can tell. B. concanensis has no type and only a short description, so it is not possible to confirm or deny if it is the same or different.


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