Diospyros for ID : 250511 : AK-3

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Aarti S. Khale

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May 25, 2011, 2:48:48 AM5/25/11
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Taken at Jijamata Udyan, Mumbai, Maharashtra on the 9th & 15th of April, 2011.
A medium sized tree.
Sorry for the bad picture quality as flowers were high up on the tree.
Found a fallen fruit and flowers.
Aarti
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H S

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May 25, 2011, 6:39:11 AM5/25/11
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looks like Diospyros malabarica (syn. D. ebenum)
Ebony tree

There are 3 more species of Diospyros in Rani Baug..


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H S

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May 25, 2011, 7:23:11 AM5/25/11
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Have u visited rani baug????



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Gurcharan Singh

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May 25, 2011, 7:51:39 AM5/25/11
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Aarti ji
Are flowers and fruits from the same tree as the third photograph with leaves and flowers?. The second photograph looks like that of D. malabarica (syn: peregrina) but leaves of third photograph look to be similar to D. montana (syn: D. cordifolia). The leaves of malabarica are mostly shining, much longer than broad. The flowers are ivory coloured and almost as long as broad in D. malabarica. The colour does resemble D. montana but I have never seen such a long corolla tube (comparing lobes) in any species of Diospyros. The calyx also looks different from both the species.



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Aarti S. Khale

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May 25, 2011, 10:20:07 AM5/25/11
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Thanks H S ji for the id.
I have pictures of two more species from same place,but seem to be
getting confused with the actual names & id.
One was posted by me much earlier....that fruit has a slight tapering end.
Regards,
Aarti

Aarti S. Khale

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May 25, 2011, 10:33:30 AM5/25/11
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Gurcharan ji,
Sorry to have missed out on your post as I checked my mail id
first....so saw your mail later on our group id.
The flowers on the tree were photographed on the 9th of April, when I
revisited a week later,found these flowers & fruit under the same
tree.
I think Prashant ji had posted the same earlier but I missed out on
the id.
Aarti

On May 25, 3:51 pm, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Aarti ji
> Are flowers and fruits from the same tree as the third photograph with
> leaves and flowers?. The second photograph looks like that of D. malabarica
> (syn: peregrina) but leaves of third photograph look to be similar to D.
> montana (syn: D. cordifolia). The leaves of malabarica are mostly shining,
> much longer than broad. The flowers are ivory coloured and almost as long as
> broad in D. malabarica. The colour does resemble D. montana but I have never
> seen such a long corolla tube (comparing lobes) in any species of Diospyros.
> The calyx also looks different from both the species.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:53 PM, H S <hemsan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Have u visited rani baug????
>
> > --
> >  - H.S.
>
> > A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
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J.M. Garg

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Aug 31, 2011, 8:08:21 AM8/31/11
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“looks like Diospyros malabarica (syn. D. ebenum)
Ebony tree

There are 3 more species of Diospyros in Rani Baug..

 - H.S.”                  

 

“Are flowers and fruits from the same tree as the third photograph with leaves and flowers?. The second photograph looks like that of D. malabarica (syn: peregrina) but leaves of third photograph look to be similar to D. montana (syn: D. cordifolia). The leaves of malabarica are mostly shining, much longer than broad. The flowers are ivory coloured and almost as long as broad in D. malabarica. The colour does resemble D. montana but I have never seen such a long corolla tube (comparing lobes) in any species of Diospyros. The calyx also looks different from both the species.

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Dr. Gurcharan Singh”

 

“The flowers on the tree were photographed on the 9th of April, when I revisited a week later,found these flowers & fruit under the sametree. I think Prashant ji had posted the same earlier but I missed out on the id.
Aarti”

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Giby Kuriakose

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Aug 31, 2011, 2:30:09 PM8/31/11
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Most probably D. malabaricum of Ebenaceae family. 
Please let me know whether the fruit has persistent calyx or not?

D. ebenum and D malabarica are not Synonyms they are different species. 



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J.M. Garg

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Nov 25, 2016, 11:35:34 PM11/25/16
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To me it appears more closer to Diospyros melanoxylon Roxb.  as per images herein.
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 25, 2016, 11:55:01 PM11/25/16
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Sorry, It may be more closer to Diospyros ebenum J.König ex Retz. as per images herein
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J.M. Garg

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Aug 9, 2021, 4:02:27 AMAug 9
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This is Diospyros discolor as per images and details herein.     

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Aarti S. Khale

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Aug 9, 2021, 4:34:26 AMAug 9
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Thanks Garg Ji. 
Regards, 
Aarti 

Paradesi Anjaneyulu

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Aug 9, 2021, 8:31:41 AMAug 9
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Yes it's Diospyros discolor,
With regards. 



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Aarti S. Khale

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Thanks for validating Paradesi Ji.
Regards,
Aarti

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