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J.M. Garg

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27-Mar-2009, 4:03:09 am27/03/09
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At Edermundi island in Krishna WS in A.P.
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Kenneth Greby

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27-Mar-2009, 10:28:23 am27/03/09
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 I believe it is Solanum wendlandii. The prickly petioles are a good identifying characteristic.

Regards--
Ken Greby.

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J.M. Garg

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27-Mar-2009, 11:01:44 am27/03/09
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Thanks, Kenneth ji,
Seems to match.
Links for Solanum wendlandii (Costa Rica Nightshade, Giant Potato Vine, Paradise Flower): http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/31442/ (Dave's Garden), http://www.smgrowers.com/products/plants/plantdisplay.asp?plant_id=2770 (some details), http://www.backyardgardener.com/plantname/pda_0d0b.html (details w.r.t. gardening),
2009/3/27 Kenneth Greby <fst...@yahoo.com>

J.M. Garg

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14-Mar-2011, 8:49:18 am14/03/11
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

“ I believe it is Solanum wendlandii. The prickly petioles are a good identifying characteristic.

Regards--
Ken Greby.”

 

“Thanks, Kenneth ji,
Seems to match.
Links for Solanum wendlandii (Costa Rica Nightshade, Giant Potato Vine, Paradise Flower): http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/31442/ (Dave's Garden), http://www.smgrowers.com/products/plants/plantdisplay.asp?plant_id=2770 (some details), http://www.backyardgardener.com/plantname/pda_0d0b.html (details w.r.t. gardening), ” from me.

 

“Hi J.M.Garg. I just looked at your pictures of Solanum wendlandii (File:Solanum wendlandii (Costa Rica Nightshade) W IMG 6700.jpg and File:Solanum_wendlandii_(Costa_Rica_Nightshade)_W2_IMG_6700.jpg) and I'm not quite sure, if they are identified correctly. According to [2], the shape of the corolla should be rotate-pentagonal, not star shaped like in your specimen. Furthermore, the style should be straight, the picture clearly shows a curved style. Maybe it would be best to move the pictures to Category:Unidentified Solanum for now? All the best, --Carstor (talk) 09:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)” from Wikimedia.

 



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Gurcharan Singh

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14-Mar-2011, 9:37:01 am14/03/11
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Garg ji
Could you kindly send information about the plant

Place?
Wild or cultivated?
Shrub or climber?
Any fruits? size and colour when mature


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Vijayasankar

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14-Mar-2011, 10:24:20 am14/03/11
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To me it looks like Solanum trilobatum.
Details would help in confirmation.
 
Regards 
 
Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi

Gurcharan Singh

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14-Mar-2011, 10:41:19 am14/03/11
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Yes Vijayasankar ji
I was trying to find best match other than S. wendlandii (which has deeply dissected leaves, especially lower), a woody climber with curved prickles and purple flowers. I think you have hit the right choice. I hope it is an important medicinal plant.



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shrikant ingalhalikar

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14-Mar-2011, 10:55:19 am14/03/11
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Yes, I agree with Vijaysankarji. Armed undershrub, leaves not
exceeding 5 cm, petioles and pedicels prickly would be S. trilobatum.
Regards, Shrikant

On Mar 14, 7:41 pm, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes Vijayasankar ji
> I was trying to find best match other than S. wendlandii (which has deeply
> dissected leaves, especially lower), a woody climber with curved prickles
> and purple flowers. I think you have hit the right choice. I hope it is an
> important medicinal plant.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > To me it looks like *Solanum trilobatum. *
> > Details would help in confirmation.
>
> > Regards
>
> > Vijayasankar Raman
> > National Center for Natural Products Research
> > University of Mississippi
>
> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Garg ji
> >> Could you kindly send information about the plant
>
> >> Place?
> >> Wild or cultivated?
> >> Shrub or climber?
> >> Any fruits? size and colour when mature
>
> >> *
> >> --
> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >> Retired  Associate Professor
> >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> >> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >> *
>
> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:19 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> >>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> >>> “ I believe it is Solanum wendlandii. The prickly petioles are a good
> >>> identifying characteristic.
>
> >>> Regards--
> >>> Ken Greby.”
>
> >>> “Thanks, Kenneth ji,
> >>> Seems to match.
> >>> Links for Solanum wendlandii (Costa Rica Nightshade, Giant Potato Vine,
> >>> Paradise Flower):http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/31442/(Dave's
> >>> Garden),
> >>>http://www.smgrowers.com/products/plants/plantdisplay.asp?plant_id=27...details),
> >>>http://www.backyardgardener.com/plantname/pda_0d0b.html(details w.r.t.
> >>> gardening), ” from me.
>
> >>> “Hi J.M.Garg. I just looked at your pictures of *Solanum wendlandii* (File:Solanum
> >>> wendlandii (Costa Rica Nightshade) W IMG 6700.jpg<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Solanum_wendlandii_%28Costa_Ri...>and
> >>> File:Solanum_wendlandii_(Costa_Rica_Nightshade)_W2_IMG_6700.jpg<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Solanum_wendlandii_%28Costa_Ri...>)
> >>> and I'm not quite sure, if they are identified correctly. According to
> >>> [2]<http://www.nhm.ac.uk/research-curation/research/projects/solanaceaeso...>,
> >>> the shape of the corolla should be rotate-pentagonal, not star shaped like
> >>> in your specimen. Furthermore, the style should be straight, the picture
> >>> clearly shows a curved style. Maybe it would be best to move the pictures to
> >>> Category:Unidentified Solanum<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Unidentified_Solanum>for now? All the best, --
> >>> Carstor <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Carstor> (talk<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Carstor>)
> >>> 09:50, 12 February 2011 (UTC)” from Wikimedia.
>
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>
> >>> Date: 27 March 2009 13:33
> >>> Subject: For Id Solanum species 270309Jm1
> >>> To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com>
>
> >>> At Edermundi island in Krishna WS in A.P.
> >>> --
> >>> With regards,
> >>> J.M.Garg
> >>> "We often ignore the beauty around us"
> >>> Creating Awareness about Indian Flora & Fauna:
> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> >>> For learning about our trees & plants, please visit/ join Google e-group
> >>> (Indiantreepix)http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en
>
> >>> --
> >>> With regards,
> >>> J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com)
> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
> >>> alphabetically & place-wise):
> >>>http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
> >>> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
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> >>> 64,000 messages on 28/2/11 & with a database of around 4500 species on
> >>> 15/12/10)- Hide quoted text -
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Vijayasankar

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14-Mar-2011, 11:05:02 am14/03/11
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Yes Gurcharan ji,

S. trilobatum (Thoodhuvelai in Tamil) is a popular medicinal plant used mainly for the treatment of breathing troubles. Leaves are also used as vegetable. There is a white-flowered form (but I have seen only blue-violet flowers in the wild). It is indigenous in India, and Garg ji's pictures are from Krishna Wildlife Sanctuary, Andhra Pradesh (so must be wild).
S. wendlandii, as you know, is an American plant and is completely a different one.

 
Regards 
 
Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi



Gurcharan Singh

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14-Mar-2011, 11:19:47 am14/03/11
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Shrikant ji
Not undershrub, rather a woody climber or scandent shrub as can be made out from Garg ji's photographs and the following links




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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

J.M. Garg

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15-Mar-2011, 1:15:05 am15/03/11
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Thanks, Singh ji, Shrikant ji & Vijayasankar ji.
It was wild at Edermundi island in Krishna WS in A.P.

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