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rinku

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Sep 22, 2019, 8:13:34 AM9/22/19
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 this plant is photographed in hamirpur H.P. , growing wild , agave or yucca, not sure, Which Species? Any Idea pls
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 22, 2019, 8:21:52 AM9/22/19
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Pl. check comparative images and keys at Agave

On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 at 17:43, rinku <rinkuj...@gmail.com> wrote:
 this plant is photographed in hamirpur H.P. , growing wild , agave or yucca, not sure, Which Species? Any Idea pls

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ushadi

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Sep 22, 2019, 11:33:18 AM9/22/19
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spines along te edges  are visible (in a small section of the picture only)
so its Agave

yucca is spineless

so next time pay attention to leaf thickness, end pint, and edges


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Promila Chaturvedi

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Sep 23, 2019, 7:57:19 AM9/23/19
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ushadi

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Sep 23, 2019, 3:24:46 PM9/23/19
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Leaf thickness and width rules it out I think, Promila


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J.M. Garg

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Oct 1, 2019, 12:51:03 AM10/1/19
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I would like to go with Agave americana L. as per comparative images at Agaveand keys herein.

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ushadi

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Oct 1, 2019, 12:36:34 PM10/1/19
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the leaf is not robust enough
look at these

the following url shows pictures with cross sections of the leaves
I call that ROBUST ... thick... leaves

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the presented plant is agave thin leaved
thin enough to flop over

not Agave americana
sorry to bring a negative opinion

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 1, 2019, 11:16:36 PM10/1/19
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Thanks, Usha ji,
There are lot of mis-identification in these species.
We have to follow keys at Agave

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Jun 7, 2021, 1:18:36 PM6/7/21
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Please make sure Agave americana can grow wild in our country, because as per Botany of Bihar and Orissa, only Agave vera-cruz was more or less naturalized (in Singbhum). And I agree with Ushadi, americana is a roust plant.

J.M. Garg

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Jun 15, 2021, 6:06:16 AM6/15/21
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Any suggestions, Surajit ji?



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surajit koley

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Jun 15, 2021, 10:02:58 AM6/15/21
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Sir,

I still do not know if  Agave americana has been naturalized in our country or not. Even if it is naturalized, there must have been some mother or grandmother or great grandmother plant nearby.

However, as per lucidcentral, (1), the leaves of A. americana are not flexuous, that is why they bend at the tip region only, but leaves are flexuous in A. cantula. (2) the colour of the leaves of A. americana are quite different than any other Agave species, how can I describe it .... like kind of stonewashed or stony textured.

I think, in the 2nd picture, some of the apical spine, though not clearly visible, can be called acicular.

So, I would suggest A. cantula Roxb. for this specimen. Of-course, in that case too, there must have been some mother plants somewhere nearby.

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surajit koley

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Jun 15, 2021, 10:11:20 AM6/15/21
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Please, also note, leaf base in this specimen are not significantly fleshy (thick).


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surajit koley

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Jun 15, 2021, 10:43:29 AM6/15/21
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I forgot to tell you that I found KEY to three Agave https://keybase.rbg.vic.gov.au/keys/show/7710 and saved a screenshot following the steps thereon.


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