VoF Week :: DV :: 03 AUG 12 - 1245 :: lilac-coloured flowers along Hemakund - Ghangaria trail

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Dinesh Valke

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Aug 24, 2012, 2:06:52 PM8/24/12
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Brahmakamal near Hemakund
3 AUG 12
Hemakund - Ghangaria trail ... about 13500 ft
Dear friends, ID please.
Habitat: sloping meadow
Habit: small herb, about 50 - 60 cm high; flower about 5 mm across


P1020480

P1020481   P1020479   P1020477
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Dinesh

Gurcharan Singh

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Aug 24, 2012, 2:20:04 PM8/24/12
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Basal leaves are very important in this genus, but upper three-lobed leaves suggest Valeriana jatamansii.
Hope basal leaves are simple and cordate at base.


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Dinesh Valke

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Aug 24, 2012, 2:55:12 PM8/24/12
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Many thanks Gurcharan ji.
I could not find any photo showing the basal leaves.
I am almost convinced of V. jatamansii.

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Dinesh

Satish Phadke

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Aug 25, 2012, 10:39:52 AM8/25/12
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Another uncommon family member. Valerianaceae.
Dr Satish Phadke


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Dinesh Valke

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Sep 11, 2012, 9:20:10 AM9/11/12
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Gurcharan ji, ... putting a cropped photo, hopefully giving us a picture of basal leaves of the above posted plant. (Had overseen it during earlier digging).
It also is in line with Prashant's upload at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/vgBApujDwOU/yxTF9CHw0ZYJ


Valeriana ¿ himalayana ?


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Dinesh

Balkar Singh

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Sep 11, 2012, 12:58:07 PM9/11/12
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May be Valeriana pyrolifolia

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Dinesh Valke

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Sep 11, 2012, 1:06:27 PM9/11/12
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Thank you very much Balkar ji for this probable ID.
Now we have two probable IDs: Valeriana himalayana / Valeriana pyrolifolia

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Dinesh

Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 11, 2012, 1:19:50 PM9/11/12
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Not pyrolaefolia in which cauline leaves like basal leaves are not lobed,


V. himalayana the leaves are narrower and narrowed at base, although cauline leaves are trifid.


I think V. jatamansi, as lowermost leaves appear cordate, perhaps another better view of basal leaves should help



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SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

Umeshkumar Tiwari

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Sep 11, 2012, 1:31:50 PM9/11/12
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Dear All,
I think, it could be Valeriana fedtsehenkoi ??? or himalyana???


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Dinesh Valke

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Sep 11, 2012, 2:22:32 PM9/11/12
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Many thanks Umesh ji for adding a possible ID for consideration.

Gurcharan ji, ... attached is further cropped version to view the basal leaf alone. Hope it helps.

Regards.
Dinesh
P1020460_cropped_480x320.jpg

Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 12, 2012, 12:06:10 PM9/12/12
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Yes Dinesh ji
Had seen this earlier, but thought the upper cordate base leaf (saw several of them in your original photograph) are basal and this slightly higher leaf.


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SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

Dinesh Valke

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Sep 12, 2012, 12:21:06 PM9/12/12
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Gurcharan ji,

Attaching cropped versions of one of the above photo to show the upper-most and mid-level leaves.
The mid-level seem to be lobed kind of the basal leaves.

Regards.
Dinesh
P1020481_cropped_MID_leaves.jpg
P1020481_cropped_UPPER-MOST_leaves.jpg

Gurcharan Singh

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Sep 12, 2012, 2:02:18 PM9/12/12
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Dinesh ji
If these are basal and midcauline leaves, then it goes with V. himalayana. Also the single plant habit goes with this species.


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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

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Dinesh Valke

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Sep 12, 2012, 2:13:48 PM9/12/12
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Thank you very very much for this ID, Gurcharan ji.
Regards.
Dinesh
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