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Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 21, 2023, 11:10:20 AM3/21/23
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Dear Members,

Location: Ranibari, Kathmandu
Date: 21 March 2023
Altitude: 1370m.
Habitat : Wild

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Saroj Kasaju
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Mar 21, 2023, 11:10:43 AM3/21/23
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Mar 21, 2023, 11:10:53 AM3/21/23
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Mar 21, 2023, 11:11:01 AM3/21/23
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Mar 21, 2023, 11:11:29 AM3/21/23
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Mar 21, 2023, 11:11:53 AM3/21/23
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On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 8:56 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Mar 21, 2023, 11:11:54 AM3/21/23
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Mar 21, 2023, 11:12:10 AM3/21/23
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Mar 21, 2023, 11:12:33 AM3/21/23
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J.M. Garg

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Mar 23, 2023, 7:59:39 AM3/23/23
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May be from lauraceae.
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J.M. Garg

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Mar 23, 2023, 7:59:53 AM3/23/23
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Two more images attached. 
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J.M. Garg

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Mar 26, 2023, 7:20:56 AM3/26/23
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To me appears close to images at 
https://efloraofindia.com/2012/05/03/machilus-duthiei/
Pl. check.

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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Mar 26, 2023, 7:45:50 AM3/26/23
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I will check.

J.M. Garg

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Mar 26, 2023, 11:19:12 AM3/26/23
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Thanks, Tapas ji
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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Mar 27, 2023, 10:53:53 AM3/27/23
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I think this is Machilus edulis King ex Hook.f.

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Tapas

J.M. Garg

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Mar 27, 2023, 11:25:40 AM3/27/23
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Thanks a lot, Tapas ji
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Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 28, 2023, 3:05:06 PM3/28/23
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Dear Tapas Da,

I could not find its distribution in Nepal. 
Could it be Machilus duthiei King ex Hook.fil. ?? 

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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Mar 29, 2023, 4:10:49 AM3/29/23
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Machilus duthiei has 14-20 pairs of lateral nerves of leaves, which it is not.

Tapas Chakrabarty

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Mar 29, 2023, 4:11:50 AM3/29/23
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This may be even a new species!

Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 29, 2023, 4:16:21 AM3/29/23
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I shall follow up Tapas Da!
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Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Mar 30, 2023, 6:38:53 AM3/30/23
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I feel it looks different from GBIF specimens of Machilus edulis, both in leaves and inflorescence arrangement.
I still it is more closer to images at 
https://efloraofindia.com/2012/05/03/machilus-duthiei/
(lateral nerves are also in the range of 14 or so) 
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Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 30, 2023, 6:49:47 AM3/30/23
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Thank you Mr. Garg 

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Mar 31, 2023, 6:17:56 AM3/31/23
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Waiting for final words from Tapas ji.
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Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 31, 2023, 6:21:07 AM3/31/23
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OK Mr. Garg !

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Saroj Kasaju

Tapas Chakrabarty

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Mar 31, 2023, 7:00:41 AM3/31/23
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Here is the key to the species of Machilus in the Indo-Burmese region. Please help yourself. I still think that this plant may prove to be a distinct species, close to M. duthiei.

With regards,
Tapas

Key to the species

1a.

Shoots subtended by a ring of bud scale scars; leaves usually crowded towards tips of branchlets ……………………………………………………………………………….. 2

 b.

Shoots not subtended by a ring of bud scale scars; leaves usually not crowded towards tips of branchlets but evenly spaced ………….............................................................. 11

2a.

Panicle branches and perianth segments glabrous or sparsely puberulous ……………  3

  b.

Panicle branchlets and perianth segments tomentose to villous or densely pubescent … 5

3a.

Lateral nerves of leaves 14–20 pairs; pedicels 5–10 mm long; fruits globose, 2.5–3 cm in diameter ………………………………………………………………… 2. M. clarkeana

 b.

Lateral nerves of leaves 8–15 pairs; pedicels 3–5 mm long; fruits ellipsoid to oblong-ellipsoid, 0.7–1.6 × 0.5–1 cm …………………………………………………. 4

4a.

Tertiary nerves and minor nervules of leaves inconspicuous on both surfaces; panicles 3–5 cm long; fruits ca 7 × 5 mm ………………………………………… 10. M. kingii

 b.

Tertiary nerves of leaves prominent above, faint to prominent beneath; minor nervules finely reticulate-pitted and prominent on the upper surface, inconspicuous to somewhat prominent beneath; fruits 12–16 × 8–10 mm ……………………..  15. M. odoratissima

5a.

Leaves mostly cuneate-obovate to oblanceolate; lateral nerves stout, strongly raised beneath; fruits 3.5–4.5 cm in diameter ……………………………………. 6. M. edulis

 b.

Leaves mostly oblong-elliptic or narrowly so or sometimes obovate to oblanceolate (M. gamblei); lateral nerves slender, faint to prominent but not strongly raised beneath; fruits (unknown in M. dubia) up to 1.5 (–2.5) cm in diameter ………………………………. 6

6a.

Lateral nerves of leaves 14–25 pairs …………………………………………………..  7

 b.

Lateral nerves of leaves 7–12 pairs …………………………………………………….  8

7a.

Lateral nerves of leaves 14–20 pairs; fruits 0.8–1.2 cm in diameter; fruiting pedicels 5–6 mm long ………………………………………………………………….   5. M. duthiei

 b.

Lateral nerves of leaves 18–25 pairs; fruits 2–2.5 cm in diameter; fruiting pedicels 8–12 mm long ………………………………………………………………    20. M. sharmae

8a.

Mature leaves tomentellous beneath; minor nervules conspicuously and finely reticulate-areolate on the upper surface ……………………………  22. M. tomentosa

 b.

Mature leaves sparsely pubescent to glabrous beneath; minor nervules inconspicuous and obscure on the upper surface ………………………………………………………… 9

9a.

Leaves 5–6 cm broad, apiculate at apex; panicles up to 16 cm long ………. 4. M. dubia 

 b.

Leaves 2–4 cm broad, apiculate to acuminate at apex; panicles 3–10 cm long …….  10

10a.

Fruits 10–15 mm in diameter; fruiting pedicels 5–10 mm long; leaves often turning dark reddish brown on both surfaces on drying …………………………….  11. M. kurzii

  b.   

Fruits 8–10 mm in diameter; fruiting pedicels 4–5 mm long; leaves turning pale brown or greenish-brown on both surfaces on drying …………………………  8. M. gamblei

11a.

Panicle branchlets and perianth segments tomentose to villous or densely pubescent..  12

   b.

Panicle branches and perianth segments glabrous or sparsely puberulous …………..   15

12a.

Leaves stiffly coriaceous; lateral nerves faint above; panicles 4–6 mm long ………………………………………………………………………….. 18. M. russellii

   b.

Leaves thinly coriaceous; lateral nerves prominent above; panicles 7–28 cm long …. 13

13a.

Leaves usually unequal and rounded to obtuse at base, rounded to obtuse at apex; fruits 1–1.6 (–2) cm in diameter ………............................  14.1. M. macrantha var. macrantha

   b.

Leaves equal and cuneate to acute at base, acute, apiculate to acuminate at apex; fruits 0.6–1 (–1.2) cm in diameter ………………………………………………………….. 14

14a.

Leaves apiculate to acuminate at apex; lateral nerves 5–9 pairs; panicle branches tomentose to villous …………………………….. 14.2. M. macrantha var. glaucescens

   b.

Leaves acute to apiculate at apex; lateral nerves 8–12 pairs; panicle branches sericeous ……………………………………………………………………………. 19. M. sericea

15a.

Leaves unequal and rounded to obtuse at base ………………………………………… 16

   b.

Leaves more or  less equal and cuneate to acute at base ……………………………… 17

16a.

Leaves 2.5–5.5 cm broad, glossy above, curved downwards along margins, acute to apiculate at apex; panicles sparsely branched ………………………. 7. M. fruticosa, p.p.

   b.

Leaves 5.5–10.5 cm broad, not glossy above, flat along margins, apiculate to acuminate at apex; panicles profusely branched ……………………………     21. M. sikkimensis

17a.

Leaves predominantly obovate, obovate-oblong to obovate-elliptic …….. 12. M. listeri

   b.

Leaves predominantly oblong-elliptic to lanceolate-oblong ……………………….   18

18a.

Leaves 14–35 × 4–10 cm; minor nervules conspicuously foveolate-reticulate on the upper surface …………………………………………………………….  17. M. robusta

   b.

Leaves 6–17 × 2–5.5 cm; minor nervules inconspicuous to faint or if prominent then not foveolate-reticulate on the upper surface ………………………………………     19

19a.

Leaves flat along margins …………………………………………………………….  20

   b.

Leaves curved downwards along margins ……………………………………………. 22

20a.

Fruiting tepals reflexed …………………………………….................  13. M. lohitensis

   b.

Fruiting tepals clasping the base of fruits, reflexed at apex only ……………………. 21

 21a.

Trees, 10–30 m high; leaves thinly to thickly coriaceous, glabrous on the undersurface ……………….. …………………………………………………………. 3. M. declinata

   b.

Trees, 4–5 m high; leaves chartaceous, sparsely appressed puberulous on the undersurface ……………………………………………………………… 9. M. hedgei

22a.

Leaves apiculate to acuminate at apex; fruits ellipsoid, 1.5–2 × 1–1.3 cm ………………………………………………………………………  16. M. parviflora

  b.

Leaves obtuse, acute to apiculate at apex; fruits globose, 0.8–1 cm in diameter …….. 23

23a.

Leaves 2–2.5 cm broad, cuneate at base; lateral nerves 10–14 pairs … 1. M. bhaskarii

  b.

Leaves 2.5–5.5 cm broad, obtuse to rounded or acute at base; lateral nerves 6–12 pairs ……………………………………………………………………  7. M. fruticosa, p.p.

 

Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 31, 2023, 7:02:25 AM3/31/23
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Thank you Tapas Da !

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