Kalatope id Al221211

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Alok Mahendroo

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Dec 22, 2011, 12:07:29 PM12/22/11
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Dear friends,
Is this Persicaria vivipara..??

Location Kalatope, Chamba
Altitude 2100 mts
Habit herb
Habitat wild
Season October
Height 12 inches

regards
Alok
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Himalayan Village Education Trust
Village Khudgot,
P.O. Dalhousie
District Chamba
H.P. 176304, India

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http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on&_new=true&id=2186

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Tanay Bose

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Dec 22, 2011, 12:10:51 PM12/22/11
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Hi Alok ji I don't think this is Persicaria vivipara
In Persicaria vivipara the inflorescence is much 
condensed. Kindly try the link below 
Tanay
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Ritesh Kumar Choudhary

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Dec 22, 2011, 7:46:27 PM12/22/11
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Dear Alok Ji,

Tanay ji is right.This is not P. vivipara.

For me, it is difficult to say anything without examining the plant
more closely. Because, the characteristic pubescence, ochrea, stamens,
or nuts can't be seen here, but somehow it looks like Persicaria
longiseta. In other case, P. posumbu.

Providing links form flora of China for your convenience:
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242339605
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=50692&flora_id=2


Pl. check your specimens for these two. Or pl post more close-up shots
of the above mentioned characters.

Regards,
Ritesh.

Alok Mahendroo

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Dec 23, 2011, 11:05:39 AM12/23/11
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Just sorting through my files.. came across a few better photos of the
same plant...
Regards
Alok
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prasad dash

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Dec 24, 2011, 1:08:09 AM12/24/11
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To me it looks like Polygonum sp.

Regards

prasad
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Giby Kuriakose

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Dec 24, 2011, 3:19:21 AM12/24/11
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Hi Alok,

Somehow I could feel that your both the sets are of two different species.
My thoughts are based on mainly with the variation in inflorescence and leaves. Please check this with the original photographs are see whether they are from the same place. 

The first set (first mail), I think is  Persicaria minor (Huds.) Opiz and the second set (in the later mail) could be Persicaria maculosa Gray . Please check with relevant references.  


Regards,
Giby


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Alok Mahendroo

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Dec 24, 2011, 3:55:34 AM12/24/11
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Dear Giby ji,

How thankful I am to you for catching the mistake....!!

You are very right... I had made the mistake in gross ignorance and
since my folders are jumbled up I did not notice it...

BUT tracing back the time the photograph was taken...
The first photo was not taken at the altitude of 2100 mts but at a LOWER
ALTITUDE OF 1300 mts

and the SECOND set was taken at an altitude of 2100 mts....

With respect
regards
Alok

Ritesh Kumar Choudhary

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Dec 24, 2011, 10:17:54 PM12/24/11
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Thanks Giby ji,

I appreciate your keen observation and think you are correct.

Happy New Year.

Regards,
Ritesh.
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