Fwd: [itpmods:14774] Identification of weed plant

[J.M. Garg]

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From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <samkuzh...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct, 2020, 7:21 am
Subject: [itpmods:14774] Identification of weed plant
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Dear Members,

Please identify this weed plant.

Location: near Reserve Forest, Chathamattom, Ernakulam District(far east), Kerala

Date:01.10.2020, Morning

Altitude:1700msl

Habitat:wild 

Plant habit:crawling weed 

Height:6 inches maximum

Leaves shape:oval

Flower:4mm diameter, violet, non fragrant.

With regards,

Sam K

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From: Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct, 2020, 8:11 am
Subject: Re: [itpmods:14775] Identification of weed plant
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looks like Desmodium species

On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 7:21 AM Sam Kuzhalanattu <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Members,

Please identify this weed plant.

Location: near Reserve Forest, Chathamattom, Ernakulam District(far east), Kerala

Date:01.10.2020, Morning

Altitude:1700msl

Habitat:wild 

Plant habit:crawling weed 

Height:6 inches maximum

Leaves shape:oval

Flower:4mm diameter, violet, non fragrant.

With regards,

Sam K

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[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Desmodium heterophyllum,

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Santhosh ji.

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 19:54
Subject: Re: [itpmods:14782] Identification of weed plant
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Desmodium heterophyllum

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From: Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 20:38
Subject: Re: [itpmods:14783] Identification of weed plant
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Desmodium triflorum ?

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[Sam Kuzhalanattu]

Dear Paradesi ji,

Thank you for your mail.  Similarity, but dissimilarities mainly the beauty. Please notice Heterophyllum's main pettal have violet lines from bottom to middle and white patches in bottom either side.  So I disagree.

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Sam K

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

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[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

I agree with you Sam Ji, but within the species, many colour variations are there in mature stage since it open, I am thinking it's just open flower pic, after mature or pollination will be petals fade, in this condition seems like have white patches and the time bullet nerves will highlight.

If still, you're not compromising, let us know which one is correct when identified,

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[J.M. Garg]

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From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:19
Subject: Re: [itpmods:14784] Identification of weed plant
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Thanks Santhosh Kumar ji,

I was not aware of D. heterophyllum .!!! 

Though it looks quite similar to D. triflorum, the leaflets of D. heterophyllum seem elongated compared to almost roundish in case of D. triflorum.

Regards.

Dinesh

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From: Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 11:38
Subject: Re: [itpmods:14785] Identification of weed plant
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Dinesh ji, key from Flora of China

Terminal leaflet broadly elliptic or broadly obovate; flowering pedicel 10-25 mm; articles of legume 3.5-4 mm.	23 D. heterophyllum
+ Terminal leaflet obcordate, obtriangular, or obovate;  flowering pedicel 3-8 mm; articles of legume shorter than 2.5 mm.                      24 D. triflorum

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[Dinesh Valke]

Thank you very much Gurcharan ji, for the key.

I was totally wrong with my expression !! The keys show the differences clearly.

Thank you very much.

Regards.

Dinesh

[lalithamba]

hence based on the key it should be Desmodium heterophyllum; the flower colour is pink to white in D.triflorum and heterophyllum

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

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[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Always welcome Sam Ji and at the same time thanks for clear update, 

With regards. 

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From: Paradesi Anjaneyulu <paradesia...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 20:04
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From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <samkuzh...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 08:37
Subject: Re: [itpmods:14783] Identification of weed plant

To: Paradesi Anjaneyulu <paradesia...@gmail.com>

Dear Paradesi ji,

Name: Desmodium

Time:08.28 morning

The flower after pollination, (after bee meets).

On Sat, 3 Oct 2020, 7:21 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Paradesi ji,

Desmodium flower opening.

With regards,

Sam K

On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, 10:49 pm Sam Kuzhalanattu, <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Paradesi ji, 

Thank you, thank you very much for your advice.  See, I am a very beginner, I also favour to your future advise to me. And I noticed the said flower's pollination process done within ten'o clock morning and as soon as the main petal closed. So I cannot see the flower after 11.00 as petal opened. I understand this after observation of some days. And I sure to inform after confirmation.

With best regards,

Sam K

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From: Paradesi Anjaneyulu <paradesia...@gmail.com>

Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 20:05
Subject: Fwd: [itpmods:14783] Identification of weed plant
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From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <samkuzh...@gmail.com>

Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 09:23
Subject: Re: [itpmods:14783] Identification of weed plant

To: Paradesi Anjaneyulu <paradesia...@gmail.com>

Dear Paradesi ji,

Name: Desmodium

Date:03.10.2020   

Time:08.40 morning

Flower opened, white patches already visible.

With regards,

Sam k

On Sat, 3 Oct 2020, 8:37 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Paradesi ji,

Name: Desmodium

Time:08.28 morning

The flower after pollination, (after bee meets).

On Sat, 3 Oct 2020, 7:21 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Paradesi ji,

Desmodium flower opening.

With regards,

Sam K

On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, 10:49 pm Sam Kuzhalanattu, <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Paradesi ji, 

Thank you, thank you very much for your advice.  See, I am a very beginner, I also favour to your future advise to me. And I noticed the said flower's pollination process done within ten'o clock morning and as soon as the main petal closed. So I cannot see the flower after 11.00 as petal opened. I understand this after observation of some days. And I sure to inform after confirmation.

With best regards,

Sam K

On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, 10:27 pm Paradesi Anjaneyulu, <paradesia...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 20:06
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From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <samkuzh...@gmail.com>

Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:08
Subject: Re: [itpmods:14783] Identification of weed plant

To: Paradesi Anjaneyulu <paradesia...@gmail.com>

Dear Paradesi ji,

Name: Desmodium

Date:03.10.2020

Time:09.47 morning

Flower is fully opened, stigma disappeared, white patches remaining (it is quite natural),full violet and still beautiful.

With regards,

Sam k

On Sat, 3 Oct 2020, 9:15 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Paradesi ji,

Name: Desmodium

Date:03.10.2020   

Time:08.40 morning

Flower opened, white patches already visible.

With regards,

Sam k

On Sat, 3 Oct 2020, 8:37 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Paradesi ji,

Name: Desmodium

Time:08.28 morning

The flower after pollination, (after bee meets).

On Sat, 3 Oct 2020, 7:21 am Sam Kuzhalanattu, <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Paradesi ji,

Desmodium flower opening.

With regards,

Sam K

On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, 10:49 pm Sam Kuzhalanattu, <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Paradesi ji, 

Thank you, thank you very much for your advice.  See, I am a very beginner, I also favour to your future advise to me. And I noticed the said flower's pollination process done within ten'o clock morning and as soon as the main petal closed. So I cannot see the flower after 11.00 as petal opened. I understand this after observation of some days. And I sure to inform after confirmation.

With best regards,

Sam K

On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, 10:27 pm Paradesi Anjaneyulu, <paradesia...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Bijay Khadka]

Yes it  Desmodium heterophyllum (Willd.) DC.  (Syn:  Desmodium triflorum var. majus Wight & Arn. )

Regards,

Bijay  

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From: Sam Kuzhalanattu <samkuzh...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct, 2020, 11:22 pm
Subject: Re: Identification of weed plant
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear Garg ji and all members,

Thank you very much for identified my weed plant.  I agreed it as Desmodium heterophylla.

Efloraofindia, it's coordinators and members are working restless to identifying unknown plant specious.  I feel this is a good platform to identify and discuss on various plants.

With kind regards,

Sam k

On Mon, 5 Oct 2020, 3:38 pm J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, Sam ji, as per Desmodium heterophyllum

On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 21:56, Sam Kuzhalanattu <samkuzh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Garg ji, 

Can you finalize the said weed plant is'Desmodium heterophyllum? Please inform me.

With regards,

Sam K

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