Tree ID please

[Wasan]

Please ID the tree.

[J.M. Garg]

Welcome, Wasan ji.

The image is not clear.

Pl. post a high res. image to see the details.

On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 at 15:40, Wasan <was...@gmail.com> wrote:

Please ID the tree.

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Wasan ji.

But unable to see much details required for proper id.

When and where was it clicked?

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From: Wasan <was...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 at 15:46
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:444519] Tree ID please
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Due to file size restrictions, I am not able to send the video. I am sending again screenshots of the plant.

Than you Dr. Garg for your attention.

Srinivasan 

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Still images are not clear.

Thank you 

Saroj Kasaju

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Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

For the last two days a video that shows white fruits being used to light match sticks.

It's fake. As no such fruit exists.

It appears to be a tree of Diospyros melanoxylon (locally known as tendu or temburni).

Video makers have smartly used white cement to wrap the terminal ends of branches, which gives an appearance like fruit.

The chemical that they have poured in glass used to light the match stick is sulfuric acid. Perhaps the same they have applied to fabricated fruits on trees.

Do not share and promote such videos!
Cheers!
Mayur Nandikar

गेल्या दोन दिवसांपासून पांढऱ्या फळांचा वापर मॅचच्या काड्या पेटवण्यासाठी केला जात असल्याचे चित्र आहे तसा व्हिडीओ सामाजिक माध्यमावर प्रसारित केला जातोय!

तो बनावट आहे.

निसर्गात असे कोणतेही फळ नाही!

हे झाड डायओस्पायरॉस मेलॅनॉक्सिलॉन (स्थानिक भाषेत तेंदू किंवा टेंभुर्णी म्हणून ओळखले जाते) चे असल्याचे दिसते.

व्हिडीओ निर्मात्यांनी चतुराईने पांढऱ्या सिमेंटचा वापर फांद्यांच्या टोकांना गुंडाळण्यासाठी केला आहे, जे फळासारखे दिसते.

माचिसची काडी पेटवण्यासाठी त्यांनी ग्लासमध्ये जे रसायन ओतले ते सल्फ्यूरिक ऍसिड आहे. कदाचित तेच त्यांनी झाडांवरील फॅब्रिकेटेड फळांवर लावले असेल.

असे व्हिडिओ शेअर आणि प्रचार करू नका!

आपला
मयूर नंदीकर
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[Wasan]

The video is fake because:

From my friend 👇

1. All fruit are on the tip of the twig. 

2. Have a close look while the lady is taking out the fruit from tip of twig not by plucking. 

3. Fruit is deflecting when copper wire is being kept closure. 

4. When fruit is put inside the glass, some sound is generating which not possible by any fruit.

5. Match stick contains an oxidizing agent such as potassium chlorate, mixed with sulfur, fillers and glass powder and fire when we provide friction from any rough surface and or on such surface coated with phosphorus, binder and glass powder.

6. As per my knowledge and believe hardly any fruit phosphorus gas which may influence to light up the match stick.

7. People involved in making video not giving any clue for which purpose they have made so much efforts.

[Gurcharan Singh]

Yes a Fake fruits, we have already discussed in our WhatsApp group.

[Rakesh Biswas]

Can I join that whatsapp group? Can you share the link to the group?

Off course only if it's related to plants or nature. 

best, 

rb 

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Rakesh ji.

That whats up group was created for celebrating completion of 15 years of eFloraofIndia, with membership only to those involved with that work. 

It is generally not used now. 

I think we only used it after 6 month or so (for this fake video).

So bear with us.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

May be after all true. It could be Semecarpus anacardium, fruits are white when young (hence name White Biba or Safed Bhilawa) turn brown when mature.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semecarpus_anacardium

[Gurcharan Singh]

There may be some answers here

https://www.quora.com/How-does-a-match-stick-spontaneously-ignite-in-the-vicinity-of-a-white-Biba-seed-I-believe-same-family-as-Semecarpus-anacardium

[J.M. Garg]

I could not find a single image of S. anacardium with white fruit except those in fake videos.

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[J.M. Garg]

Replies from Pankaj ji from whatsapp:
1. Just an observation. If you look closely the stalk under the fruits are channelled and the base of that stalk is segmented. Which basically means that the fruits have been attached to a petiole and the hey are not on peduncle. But yes the fruits do look like Semecarpus anacardium. So it means someone is indeed playing a trick.
2. Same goes for this plant. Semecarpus leaves I don’t remember they turn reddish but yes Kendu/Tendu does have reddish leaves in the beginning.

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[Gurcharan Singh]

I wonder, if this is also fake

https://www.facebook.com/104329201024804/posts/safed-bhilawa/238080697649653/

[Gurcharan Singh]

And these

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=138600522242684&set=p.138600522242684&type=3

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=194170309868156&set=p.194170309868156&type=3

In any case worth investigation

[J.M. Garg]

All seems to have been circulated deliberately, to create genuine confusion. 

If any past books/ literature shows white fruits of S.anacardium, then only we can think of these as not being planted. 

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Why are all images out of focus? Can you post clear image showing 

all aspects of the fruit / plant and fruit attachment to the plant?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Wasan]

The images that I shared has been proved to be fake. Thank you for your attention 

Srinivasan 

[J.M. Garg]

Hi,
This picture is from a video, which was circulated on whatsapp groups.

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju