Herb for ID please

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A.Sinha

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Jan 14, 2011, 1:27:31 PM1/14/11
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Attaching photos of a herb fond growing in the wild along the edge of a paddy field on the outskirts of Chennai.

My first guess was Antirrhinum sp. by the bracts seem to point more to an Acanthaceae plant.
unfortunately I do not have any more information on the plant other than these two photos.

Best Wishes,
A.Sinha
Blue-Uid.1.jpg
Blue-Uid..2.jpg

Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 14, 2011, 11:03:28 PM1/14/11
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I think Justicia adhatoda (syn: Adhatoda vasica)
 


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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 30, 2011, 12:35:38 AM1/30/11
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Resurfacing again for ID confirmation

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Me..............................................I think Justicia adhatoda (syn: Adhatoda vasica)


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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

Blue-Uid.1.jpg
Blue-Uid..2.jpg

A.Sinha

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Jan 30, 2011, 3:57:50 PM1/30/11
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=Gurcharan-ji,

Thanks for the suggestion.
But I hesitate to confirm this ID on 2 counts:
The corolla shape is different from the many pictures of Adhatoda ... lower lobe is more reflexed  and  on the edges as well,    , upper lobe also edges slightly relfexed away from centre of corolla

The bracts  are bi-colored with white/ pale green edges, seem membranous; while the Adhatoda i have seem had green and more leafy  bracts.  Could  be a different species.

The color of the flower was actually  pale blue as in the picture,  not mauve or light purple.

i hope these comments help

regards
A.Sinha

Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 30, 2011, 10:07:14 PM1/30/11
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Yes Sinha ji
I knew about this doubt, that is why I resurfaced this plant. Let us wait for any leads.


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Nayan Singh

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Jan 30, 2011, 11:29:44 PM1/30/11
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to me it looks like some Rungia sp, may be Rungia repens. 
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Gurcharan Singh

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Feb 23, 2011, 9:47:31 AM2/23/11
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Resurfacing again for ID confirmation

Earlier feedback

Me..............................................I think Justicia adhatoda (syn: Adhatoda vasica)

Sinha ji......................................But I hesitate to confirm this ID on 2 counts: 
The corolla shape is different from the many pictures of Adhatoda ... lower lobe is more reflexed  and  on the edges as well,    , upper lobe also edges slightly relfexed away from centre of corolla

The bracts  are bi-colored with white/ pale green edges, seem membranous; while the Adhatoda i have seem had green and more leafy  bracts.  Could  be a different species.

The color of the flower was actually  pale blue as in the picture,  not mauve or light purple.

Me.........................................................I knew about this doubt, that is why I resurfaced this plant. Let us wait for any leads..

Nayan ji................................................to me it looks like some Rungia sp, may be Rungia repens. 

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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 
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Bhatt Sweta

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Feb 23, 2011, 11:36:03 PM2/23/11
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To me also it resembles more to Rungia sps.
Found in abundance in the Chotta-Udepur forests of Gujarat.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Mar 24, 2011, 8:52:09 AM3/24/11
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Resurfacing again for ID confirmation

Earlier feedback
Resurfacing again for ID
Earlier feedback

Me..............................................I think Justicia adhatoda (syn: Adhatoda vasica)

Sinha ji......................................But I hesitate to confirm this ID on 2 counts: 1. The corolla shape is different from the many pictures of Adhatoda ... lower lobe is more reflexed  and  on the edges as well,    , upper lobe also edges slightly relfexed away from centre of corolla. 2. The bracts  are bi-colored with white/ pale green edges, seem membranous; while the Adhatoda i have seem had green and more leafy  bracts.  Could  be a different species. The color of the flower was actually  pale blue as in the picture,  not mauve or light purple.

Me.........................................................I knew about this doubt, that is why I resurfaced this plant. Let us wait for any leads..

Nayan ji................................................to me it looks like some Rungia sp, may be Rungia repens. 

Sweta ji..................................To me also it resembles more to Rungia sps. Found in abundance in the Chotta-Udepur forests of Gujarat.
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SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

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Dinesh Valke

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Mar 24, 2011, 8:58:51 AM3/24/11
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... possibly species of Calacanthus.
Regards.
Dinesh

A.Sinha

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Mar 29, 2011, 1:16:11 AM3/29/11
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Thanks for keeping this alive.
Yes, I have seen Rungia repens and  Rungia sp looks likely to me.

  Specially after I checked out Rungia repens more carefully:though only with naked eye.  It appears to have two pairs of bracts, one greenish and one yellowish-green,  slightly mis-aligned so that it looks like a pair of bracts with  bi-colored edge .

But I I think Rungia repens has very small flowers, about 5 mm or less and and a flat lower lip.  The plant in question was larger and flowers as I remember were about 8 to 10 mm.  with distinctly recurved and bumpy labia.

So I  think it may have to stay in the "insufficient data" category until it get spotted again by someone.

Thanks for the help
A.Sinha




On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:

JM Garg

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Jan 15, 2020, 5:46:31 AM1/15/20
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I think this should be Justicia repens as per images and details herein.
Blue-Uid.1.jpg
Blue-Uid..2.jpg

dr.rakesh Singh

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Jan 15, 2020, 7:31:25 AM1/15/20
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Yessir , absolutely !!

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 15, 2020, 8:20:48 AM1/15/20
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Thanks, Rakesh ji.
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A.Sinha

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Jan 15, 2020, 10:56:15 AM1/15/20
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Thanks Gargji , Rakesh ji for confirmed ID.

Yes, it is Justicia repens,  synonym of Accepted name( as per PL2 )
 Rungia repens(L.) Nees .

Bracts were unique.
Following K Sasidharans description (KP):
 Bracts winged both sides with whitish margins, all similar.
Apparently two rows not having flowers, so sterile.
Location was Chennai, edge of paddy field, similar as reported by Arti Khale and PKA( foi)
A.Sinha

J.M. Garg

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Jan 15, 2020, 10:01:45 PM1/15/20
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Thanks, Sinha ji. 

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