efloraofindia:''For Id 27092011MR7’’ Palm - bottle shaped trunk Pune

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Madhuri Raut

27 Sept 2011, 12:08:17 pm27/09/11
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Request for identification

Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-Pune

Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Private garden

Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  Palm 

Height/Length- 10-12 feet I think

Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- Green

Bottle shaped trunk


Dr Pankaj Kumar

27 Sept 2011, 12:50:37 pm27/09/11
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looks like Roystonea regia to me.
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ajinkya gadave

27 Sept 2011, 12:53:31 pm27/09/11
to Dr Pankaj Kumar, efloraofindia
 Roystonea regia (bottle palm)

Ushadi micromini

27 Sept 2011, 10:06:24 pm27/09/11
to efloraofindia, Pankaj Kumar, ajinkya gadave, Madhuri Raut
Dear All :

I am a little confused...
about nomenclature:

if this is Roystonea regia of Roystonea genus ... then its NOT a
bottle palm...
they two different animals..
Natives...of different regions of the world and
one is prolific. the other is redlisted...
(the true Bottle Palm is Hyophorbe lagenicaulis of genus

so may be I should wait someone who is studied palms tells me what it

(Nolinas are also sometimes called bottle palms to confuse the issue
with the true bottle palm...never confused with the Royal Palm) ....

Thanks, Usha di

On Sep 27, 9:53 pm, ajinkya gadave <ajinkyagad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Roystonea regia (bottle palm)

Pankaj Kumar

27 Sept 2011, 10:08:10 pm27/09/11
to Ushadi micromini, efloraofindia, ajinkya gadave, Madhuri Raut
There are more than one species which are called Bottle Palms.
Its like Fan Palm, anything with a fan like leaf is a fan palm!!
A true bottle palm is Hyophorbe lagenicaulis.

"Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!"

Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
Conservation Officer

Flora Conservation Department
Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

36B, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun
Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

email: pku...@kbfg.org
Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm)
       +852 9436 6251; +852 5431 6094 (mobile)

hari lal

28 Sept 2011, 12:16:52 am28/09/11
to Pankaj Kumar, Ushadi micromini, efloraofindia, ajinkya gadave, Madhuri Raut
thanks a lot for all its new for me

Pankaj Kumar

28 Sept 2011, 12:21:48 am28/09/11
to hari lal, Ushadi micromini, efloraofindia, ajinkya gadave, Madhuri Raut
Your Hazaribagh has so many trees of this in government complexes
along the main road.

Madhuri Raut

28 Sept 2011, 12:39:24 pm28/09/11
to Pankaj Kumar, hari lal, Ushadi micromini, efloraofindia, ajinkya gadave
Thank you all for Id .SO I conclude this is  Roystonea regia (bottle palm)

ushadi Micromini

28 Sept 2011, 11:06:31 pm28/09/11
to Pankaj Kumar, efloraofindia
yes Pankaj ji:
its called dragon fruit... has white or reddish pink pulp with green or red skin on the outside...
you wash it
cut it open..
thousands of black seeds and puld show up
you use a spoon ( special spoons with serrated ends, originally designed to eat grapefruits.. is best) to scoop out the pulp and eat... seed and alll.

eat it as after dinner fruit with some cheese... like brei or soft cheeses .. (not blue) ...

we get it in India... in hotels like the Grand or Taj in Delhi where they get these exotics flown in esp for their chefs...
I get it at Oberoi Grand in Septemeber once in awhile.. iffy supplier...

usha di

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com> wrote:
That was so kind of you.
I found sitaphal in HK :)) but havent bought it yet.
I saw this cereus fruit in market here in HK but couldnt buy because i
have no idea if it is edible or to be cooked!!

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:55 AM, ushadi Micromini
<micromi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> oh... I remember you are the one who wanted to eat ata... sitaphal...
> after that comment you made I went to lake market to see if someone there
> would be willing to ship a couple or three kg to you... none  ventured.. and
> they said it comes from around Ranchi...
> so did you get to eat any before heading to Hongkong?
> But I guess you'll get sitaphal and many other there... that we dont get
> here so readily.. like the niteblooming cereus fruit... eat and take
> pictures.. to send..
> Usha di
> ======
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> yes Hari lives in Hazaribagh. I have met him n real. I am from Ranchi
>> otherwise. I was born and brought up there.
>> Pankaj
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:27 AM, ushadi Micromini
>> <micromi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Pankaj ji:
>> > I thought Hazaribagh was in Jharkhand waaay above Ranchi...
>> > by no means MY (meaning perhaps in West Bengal , near Kolkata)??)
>> > Hazaribagh
>> > ...
>> > unless you mean some other?
>> >
>> >
>> > Usha di
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahani...@gmail.com>

Pankaj Kumar

28 Sept 2011, 11:11:30 pm28/09/11
to ushadi Micromini, efloraofindia
Thats cool, I will try next time i go to market
Today there is a number 8 typhoon warning, so office is off and hope
markets would be closed too.
Itas too windy and rainy outside.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:06 AM, ushadi Micromini

Gurcharan Singh

28 Sept 2011, 11:36:01 pm28/09/11
to Pankaj Kumar, ushadi Micromini, efloraofindia
How come Dragon fruit came in this thread, a cactus, fruit now a part of Dinner parties in Delhi at most functions. I had uploaded it recently.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

ushadi Micromini

28 Sept 2011, 11:47:16 pm28/09/11
to Gurcharan Singh, Pankaj Kumar, efloraofindia
Gurucharanji... Somehow conversation ended up with Pankaj ji.. about Hazaribag had Palms in this thread, he said he was from Ranchi... etc etc  about sitaphal and it went on from there?

AND YES I remember you had uploaded the fruit and I had said If I find mine from one of my dinners at the hotel I'll upload...

thanks, for refreshing view of the fruit...

Pankaj ji... here's what they look like. in Gurcharan ji's pics...

stay indoors... and healthy...
and keep writing to us . as long as telephone lines are open...

typhoons are no fun...

Usha di

ushadi Micromini

28 Sept 2011, 11:50:36 pm28/09/11
to Gurcharan Singh, Pankaj Kumar, efloraofindia
Gurucharanji...The thread I was thinking about was not this one... it was about the Brahmakamal flowers, where we had a similar discussion... I was not  amemeber when this particular thread happened in January...


PS I wonder if these seeds are fertile and can produce the plant... niteblooming cereus???


On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Pankaj Kumar

28 Sept 2011, 11:54:23 pm28/09/11
to ushadi Micromini, Gurcharan Singh, efloraofindia
yes I saw the pics. I know the fruit. Its very well available in the
market and most probably they cultivate it somewhere here in HK
itself. Will try my luck. Internet says its laxative hence one should
try to test is before eating!!

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, ushadi Micromini

ushadi Micromini

29 Sept 2011, 12:06:54 am29/09/11
to Pankaj Kumar, Gurcharan Singh, efloraofindia
Like I said, I have eaten a whole fruit at various dinners.. in september mostly in Kolkata...

no side effects to speak of...

Usha di

Pankaj Kumar

29 Sept 2011, 12:07:37 am29/09/11
to ushadi Micromini, Gurcharan Singh, efloraofindia
ok let me try....

Saroj Kumar Kasaju

7 Jul 2021, 5:46:22 am07/07/21
to J.M. Garg, efloraindia
This needs to be removed from listing of  Hylocereus undatus.
Thank you
Saroj Kasaju
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