ID OF THIS FLOWERING SHRUB FROM ALPINE ZONE OF 17OOO FT DRASS LOC SECTOR --- 4

40 views
Skip to first unread message

vikram jit singh

unread,
Aug 27, 2024, 1:47:19 AM8/27/24
to efloraofindia, J.M. Garg, Gurcharan Singh, Anil Thakur, Saroj Kasaju
Dear Garg jee,


Could the members of the esteemed group assist in the ID of this flowering shrub growing in the Alpine zone of 17,000 feet in the Drass LOC sector where the Kargil War was fought in the summer of 1999.



Best regards,

Vikram Jit Singh,

Chandigarh.

(Handphones: 9814019356, 7347347677)


Golf Columnist, Defence reportage and Wildlife Correspondent: 

The Times of India at Chandigarh (India). 


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toireporter/author-Vikram-Jit-Singh.cms 



Sunday Wildbuzz Columnist at the Hindustan Times, Chandigarh, since January 8, 2012.


War correspondent at The Cliffs of Kargil, 1999

 Line of fire CI-OPs / CT Ops reporter, The Indian Express, at Srinagar, 1997-1999; India TV, at Srinagar, 2004


https://youtu.be/mQXSilXKsLc?si=9mG-jUK6IVtC67U2

IMG_6856.jpeg

Saroj Kasaju

unread,
Aug 27, 2024, 3:31:09 AM8/27/24
to vikram jit singh, efloraofindia, J.M. Garg, Gurcharan Singh, Anil Thakur
Asteraceae .
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

unread,
Sep 7, 2024, 11:39:52 AM9/7/24
to Saroj Kasaju, vikram jit singh, efloraofindia, Gurcharan Singh, Anil Thakur
Maybe something close to Waldheimia genus?:
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/09/05/waldheimia/
--
With regards,
J.M.Garg

J.M. Garg

unread,
Sep 15, 2024, 1:49:46 AM9/15/24
to efloraofindia, vikram jit singh

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Maybe something close to Waldheimia genus?:
--
With regards,
J.M.Garg
IMG_6856.jpeg

Gurcharan Singh

unread,
Sep 15, 2024, 4:10:35 AM9/15/24
to J.M. Garg, efloraofindia, vikram jit singh
Waldheimia glabra I hope 




Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

J.M. Garg

unread,
Sep 15, 2024, 5:15:14 AM9/15/24
to Gurcharan Singh, efloraofindia, vikram jit singh
Thanks a lot, Singh ji
--
With regards,
J.M.Garg

Tabish

unread,
Sep 15, 2024, 11:33:14 PM9/15/24
to eFloraofIndia
With the rather large flowers, I think this is Allardia tridactylites. Compare with the images here
  Tabish

J.M. Garg

unread,
Sep 16, 2024, 12:28:40 AM9/16/24
to indian...@googlegroups.com, Tabish, GurcharanSingh, vikram jit singh
Thanks, Tabish ji

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepi...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/62947112-c83c-4fa2-aa5c-5461059130bdn%40googlegroups.com.


--
With regards,
J.M.Garg

J.M. Garg

unread,
Sep 17, 2024, 1:00:22 AM9/17/24
to efloraofindia, vikram jit singh
Thanks a lot, Basant ji
--
With regards,
J. M. Garg

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Dr. Basant Ballabh <>
Date: Mon, 16 Sep, 2024, 20:32
Subject: Re: ID OF THIS FLOWERING SHRUB FROM ALPINE ZONE OF 17OOO FT DRASS LOC SECTOR --- 4
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>


Sir,
This pant is resembling as Waldhemia and species resembling with stoliczkai what I could able to match with the picture. Besides this glabra, tomentosa and one more species found in ladakh. 
With regards.

Tabish

unread,
Sep 17, 2024, 5:50:53 AM9/17/24
to J.M. Garg, indian...@googlegroups.com, GurcharanSingh, vikram jit singh
The following species are report from Ladakh, according to the checklist by L. Klimeš and B. Dickoré
Waldheimia huegellii, Waldheimia nivea, Waldheimia stoliczkae, Waldheimia tomentosa, Waldheimia tridactylites, Waldheimia vestita
  Tabish
-------------------------------------------
www.flowersofindia.net
The waterhole of flower lovers

Gurcharan Singh

unread,
Sep 19, 2024, 2:46:27 AM9/19/24
to eFloraofIndia
The two are very close species, in fact Allardia tridactylis was recorded as synonym of A. glabra in FBI and possibly also by Stewart. Now that two speciea are treated distinct. this key should help.


Capitula 1.5 – 2.5 cm across, on sparsely hairy short peduncles. Phyllaries 3.5 – 4.5 mm long, hairy at the bases. Cypselas 2.5 – 3 mm long.        
Allardia glabra
+   
Capitula 2.5 – 3.5 cm across, on glabrous peduncles. Phyllaries 6 – 7 mm long, glabrous all over. Cypselas 3 – 3.5 mm long.                           Allardia tridactylites


Looking at head size Tabish ji looks right. although peduncles would confirm.

J.M. Garg

unread,
Sep 27, 2024, 2:03:43 AM9/27/24
to indian...@googlegroups.com, GurcharanSingh, Tabish, Prashant awale, D.S Rawat, Alka, Sunit Singh, Saroj Kasaju
Based on the above discussions, I feel that there is more than species at 
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/12/24/waldheimia-glabra/
We have to sort these also based on keys in Flora of Pakistan



--
With regards,
J.M.Garg

J.M. Garg

unread,
Sep 27, 2024, 2:06:20 AM9/27/24
to indian...@googlegroups.com, GurcharanSingh, Tabish, Prashant awale, D.S Rawat, Alka, Sunit Singh, Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

unread,
Oct 6, 2024, 3:56:23 AM10/6/24
to indian...@googlegroups.com, GurcharanSingh, Tabish, Prashant awale, D.S Rawat, Alka, Sunit Singh, Saroj Kasaju
I have resurfaced some of the earlier posts with correct ids. 

On Fri, 27 Sept 2024 at 11:33, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:


--
With regards,
J.M.Garg

J.M. Garg

unread,
Oct 6, 2024, 3:57:16 AM10/6/24
to indian...@googlegroups.com, GurcharanSingh, Tabish, Prashant awale, D.S Rawat, Alka, Sunit Singh, Saroj Kasaju
This is after checking specimens of all the species available in the area in GBIF. 
--
With regards,
J.M.Garg
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages