Flowering of Trees

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Naveein O C

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Jan 28, 2008, 10:43:25 PM1/28/08
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Friends,
 
I think we need to congratulate ourselves for a very fine discussion group, although I was wondering if we could coombine this with with a little bit of data gathering,
 
"Could members on this group report flowering of trees in their respective areas/regions"
 
One area of concern for several of us is that we find trees/plants flowering/fruiting at times different from that indicated in litreture - now is this because of natural variance or is there a slow but noticable shift in these patterns. I am sure I dont have to explain the consequences of a shift in pattern and its effect on the various insects/birds/animals dependent on a particular tree/plant fruiting/flowering at a particular time.
 
If not anything else this could be another bonding exercise for the members of this group, and maybe someone can volunteer to compile the data that comes and share it with the rest of the groups,
 
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Naveein O C

Satya Prakash

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Jan 30, 2008, 12:53:18 AM1/30/08
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Dear Plant Lovers,

Here is the first information on flowering of trees.

Butea monosperma (Flame of the Forest) is one of
dominant plant species of Southern belt of Rajasthan
(which includes Udaipur region comprising six
districts along with one district from Jodhpur
Division, i.e. Sirohi).

Usually we use to see good flowering phase in the
later half of February. But surprisingly, this year we
found that Butea sp. in whole of the forest area (on
the sides of NH 76 between Udaipur to Pindwara) is
flowering at their full galore in January (started
from first week). Is it not too early?

We discussed the matter with the localites who are
mainly tribals (Garasiyas) as this belt is tribal
belt, they showed their fear that we might be not
getting the flowers at the time of Holi (they use
natural dyes of this flower for playing Holi) in March
if the flowers will fall early.

What's the cause? Is the construction phase which is
going on their since 2005 is one of the cause? Our
group RSNH already showed their concerned over the
change in the water flow pattern in these areas.

If any one has comment or would like to give
scientific research references for this proving this
phenomenon as quite common let us know. We shall feel
highly gratful for those in advance.

Thanks

Wishes

Sarita Mehra
Secretary,
Rajputana Society of Natural History (RSNH),
Udaipur

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 30, 2008, 2:33:00 AM1/30/08
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I think proposal of Naveein is quite good. But I am afraid if someone will come forward for this excercise to coordinate. The co-ordinator can sent mails on the 1st of every month about selected say 10 trees (having wide geographic distribution, particularly in metropolitan cities) & collect feedback from this group & than compile at the end of the year.

For learning about our trees & plants, please visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en

satish phadke

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Jan 30, 2008, 10:28:04 AM1/30/08
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It is a very good idea to report about flowering in each member's area as we come from different regions of the country.
As the discussion has started I would like to report that in my city Pune(Maharashtra) the Butea trees are flowering for last 2-3 weeks but in some parts there are no flowers at all which may or may not start in few days.There is considerable variation that needs to be explored.As this is a flowering season many trees are flowering just now.I would request everybody to report it as soon as they see the first few flowers of at least common trees.The data remains stored and can be combined later.
Few of the flowering trees this week in my area
Spathodia in full bloom at most places.
Ceiba pentandra---Flowering nearing over
Cochlospermum...Flowering nearing over
Carissa congesta---Karwand (Marathi) Last few flowers
Boswellia serrata......Flowering nearing over
Butea....some are in full bloom while common ones not at all.???
Milletia ovalifolia.....was in full bloom last 15 days now last few flowers.
Happy flowering
Satish
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birds

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Jan 30, 2008, 12:24:04 PM1/30/08
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I like the idea too but I know so little about Indian trees that I may not be able to contribute much. Nonetheless there are two trees which are currently flowering here in Goa and which I think I do recognise; the first is the Cashew trees (little red flowers, almost over now but started about three weeks ago) and  second are the Mango trees (green/yellowish small buds, I am not sure whether they are even called flowers).

Will look for more and post photos.

Best regards,

Fionna
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satish phadke

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Jan 30, 2008, 2:00:10 PM1/30/08
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Yes correct observation.Both belong to same Anacardiaceae family having very small flowers.
Indeed those are flowers.
Satish
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J.M. Garg

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Jan 30, 2008, 9:38:26 PM1/30/08
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Is anybody coming forward for compiling the data?



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Satya Prakash

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Jan 30, 2008, 11:22:02 PM1/30/08
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I will discuss with my group members. Although we are
not too good in plants but we have botanist in our
team.

Meanwhile, sending of information should not stop.

Before that I request group members to write
"Flowering of (species name) at (site/place name)" inb
the subject line instead of vague words or simply
reply to earlier mails.

Further, I have one suggestion: We should set a
proforma to collect the information.

Format should contains info on:
1. Names: scientific, Hindi, English, local (regional)
2. Flowering information through observation
3. Flowering information through scientific references
(if available with sender then it's good otherwise
other group memeber &/or compiler). In case compiler
finds difficulty then he/she will take help of group.
4. Other information of species such as:
Economic value in terms of local use alonbg with its
usable parts; medicinal value; other ethnic
importance; any local myths with the species; so on.
5. Scientific Refrences on the species

Once format is set then I think it will be easy for
any one to compile and as suggested monthly or
quarterly compiled information could be circulated.
Whatever gaps are there, members will cooperate.

We are ready from our side.

Very soon I will send our volunteers name. Meanwhile I
am collecting the information. But would not be able
to compile for two months due to our running
assignments.

Thanks

Wishes

Sarita Mehra
Secretary,
Rajputana Society of Natural History (RSNH),
Udaipur

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J.M. Garg

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Jan 31, 2008, 12:20:29 AM1/31/08
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That's wonderful, Satya ji.
But I think let's limit our observations to say 10 to 15 prominant trees with wide geographical distribution in India, perticularly Metropolitan cities (as large members are from these cities). As soon as these trees are selected, we may circulate the pictures of these so that everybody is aware of these trees (as there are lot of members, who may not be well-conversant with them). 
I would suggest the following trees (there flowers are quite prominant & I have got pictures which can be circulated quickly) from my side as all are seen in Kolkata. However, some of them which are not widespread & common may be deleted or some new may be added, to keep the shortlist to say 15. All these trees have been posted & discussed in Indiantreepix:
African Tulip Tree (Spathodea campanulata)
Amaltas/ Indian Laburnum (Cassia fistula)
Arjun (Terminalia arjuna)
Babool (Acacia nilotica)
Caribean Trumpet Tree (Tabebuia aurea)
Chalta (Dillenia indica)
Chinese Fan Palm (Livistona chinensis)
Copperpod (Peltophorum pterocarpum)
Earpod Wattle (Acacia auriculiformis)
Gulmohur (Delonix regia)
Gamhar or Kashmir Teak (Gmelina arborea)
Indian Coral Tree (Erythrina variegata)
Indian Tulip tree (Thespesia populnea)
Harshingar or Parijat (Nyctanthes arbor-tristis)
Jarul (Lagerstroemia speciosa)
Jungle Jalebi  (Pithecellobium dulce)
Kadamb (Neolamarckia cadamba)
Kaniar (Bauhinia purpurea)
Kapok (Ceiba pentandra)
Kassod (Senna siamea)
Putranjiva  (Drypetes roxburghii)
Sausage Tree (Kigelia africana)
Siris (Albizia lebbeck)
Teak or Sagwan (Tectona grandis)
White Frangipani (Plumeria obtusa)
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J.M. Garg

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Jan 31, 2008, 12:23:33 AM1/31/08
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Chitra's is a wonderful idea. Let him also put up the Google Woorksheet. Everybody will learn a bit in the process.  

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From: Chitra Shanker <chitra...@gmail.com>
Date: Jan 31, 2008 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Indiantreepix] Re: Flowering of Trees
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Gargji lets open a google worksheet and keep adding data. I am vry busy right now. BUt the wek following i xan put up the sheet. Until then data can be recorded and sent through mails
chitra

 

satish phadke

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Jan 31, 2008, 8:22:17 AM1/31/08
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Flowering of Cashew nut tree..........last summer...............Anacardium occidentale
Satish
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DSCN0076Anacardium.jpg

vinod kumar gupta

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Jan 31, 2008, 10:08:08 AM1/31/08
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Lovely photograph showing every feature in a single shot.Nearly which month?
 
Vinod

Dinesh Singal

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Jan 31, 2008, 10:55:16 AM1/31/08
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Posting pictures is a very good idea particularly for members like me who are not much conversant with even common trees and their flowers. That way even members like me can contribute.

Regards,

Dinesh



On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 JM.Garg wrote :
>That's wonderful, Satya ji.
>But I think let's limit our observations to say 10 to 15 prominant trees
>with wide geographical distribution in India, perticularly Metropolitan
>cities (as large members are from these cities). As soon as these trees are
>selected, we may circulate the pictures of these so that everybody is aware
>of these trees (as there are lot of members, who may not be well-conversant
>with them).
>I would suggest the following trees (there flowers are quite prominant & I
>have got pictures which can be circulated quickly) from my side as all
>are seen in Kolkata. However, some of them which are not widespread & common
>may be deleted or some new may be added, to keep the shortlist to say 15.
>All these trees have been posted & discussed in Indiantreepix:

>African Tulip Tree (*Spathodea campanulata*)
>Amaltas/ Indian Laburnum (*Cassia fistula*)
>Arjun (*Terminalia arjuna*)
>Babool (*Acacia nilotica*)
>Caribean Trumpet Tree (*Tabebuia aurea*)
>Chalta (*Dillenia indica*)
>Chinese Fan Palm (*Livistona chinensis*)
>Copperpod (*Peltophorum pterocarpum*)
>Earpod Wattle (*Acacia auriculiformis*)
>Gulmohur (*Delonix regia*)
>Gamhar or Kashmir Teak (*Gmelina arborea*)
>Indian Coral Tree (*Erythrina variegata*)
>Indian Tulip tree (*Thespesia populnea*)
>Harshingar or Parijat (*Nyctanthes arbor-tristis*)
>Jarul (*Lagerstroemia speciosa*)
>Jungle Jalebi  (*Pithecellobium dulce*)
>Kadamb (*Neolamarckia cadamba*)
>Kaniar (*Bauhinia purpurea*)
>Kapok (*Ceiba pentandra*)
>Kassod (*Senna siamea*)
>Putranjiva  (*Drypetes roxburghii*)
>Sausage Tree (*Kigelia africana*)
>Siris (*Albizia lebbeck*)
>Teak or Sagwan (*Tectona grandis*)
>White Frangipani (*Plumeria obtusa*)

> > Thanks
> >
> > Wishes
> >
> > Sarita Mehra
> > Secretary,
> > Rajputana Society of Natural History (RSNH),
> > Udaipur
> >
> >

> > --- "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Is anybody coming forward for compiling the data?
> > >
> > > On 1/30/08, satish phadke <phadke...@gmail.com>

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satish phadke

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Jan 31, 2008, 11:05:36 AM1/31/08
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Roughly march 2007 Near Pondicherry.
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J.M. Garg

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Feb 18, 2008, 12:23:00 AM2/18/08
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Hi, Chitra ji,
We are waiting for your Google spread sheet, so that work is started in real earnest.

 
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