Requesting for ID for this Oberonia sp.

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Kaushik P M

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Aug 27, 2024, 1:16:02 AMAug 27
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Dear all 
Please help in knowing the species name of this Oberonia.

Month of photo taken: August 2024
Place : Galibeedu village, Madikeri taluk, Kodagu district 
Elevation: Approx 1100 mts
Habit : Epiphytic 
Habitat: Moist evergreen forest 
Host tree: Ficus recemosa.
Average rainfall per annum: 3500 mm


Thank you 
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J.M. Garg

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Aug 27, 2024, 1:17:41 AMAug 27
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Thanks, Kaushik ji

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Pankaj Kumar

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Aug 31, 2024, 1:35:02 PMAug 31
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where these orange and green ones growing at the same place?
Pankaj

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Kaushik P M

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Aug 31, 2024, 10:30:10 PMAug 31
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Kodagu, Karnataka

Pankaj Kumar

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Aug 31, 2024, 10:34:07 PMAug 31
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No I mean on the same tree? Because I can see green flowered and orange flowered plant on the same trunk?

Kaushik P M

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Aug 31, 2024, 10:42:45 PMAug 31
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Yes sir. Ficus recemosa

Pankaj Kumar

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Aug 31, 2024, 10:46:14 PMAug 31
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I am thinking for are same species Oberona balakrishnanii, however, I cant confirm without looking at the dissection of flowers. One needs to check the margin of petals and sepals for presence and absence of hairs.
Pankaj

Kaushik P M

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Sep 1, 2024, 12:27:04 AMSep 1
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Sir, I am actually finding very difficult in identification of Oberonia sp. There are about 7-8 different species and I could only get to know O. Chandrakarnai

Ravee Bhat

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Sep 1, 2024, 11:51:26 AMSep 1
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Dear Pankaj, Kaushik sirs

Ensiform leaves do seem to suggest O balakrishnanii. And lateral lobes of labellum do not seem to interlock at their ends however do seem to be bending upwards (appears so in the photo!)

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Ravee



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Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 1, 2024, 12:41:30 PMSep 1
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So are you saying it is not balakrishnanii?
Ensiform films literally are found in all Oberonias!!
But the overlapping of lateral lobes of labellum is not something I buy for identification purposes. In this group of Malaxideae overlapping to me is dependent on maturity and weather conditions.
By the way, do they come in two colours?
Pankaj

Ravee Bhat

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Sep 1, 2024, 1:00:58 PMSep 1
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No. I am inclined to say this is O balakrishnanii . 
However, as I was reading the description of the species in Indian Oberonia by Ansari and Balakrishnan, I could not help but notice the description of the lobes.
The colour of the flowers is not mentioned though.

Regards
Ravee

Pankaj Kumar

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Sep 1, 2024, 1:04:38 PMSep 1
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Dear Ravee
There are other aspects too to look into, like the margin of petals and sepals which are not visible in the pictures to confirm.
If you see a true balakrishnanii then you can share some good images please.
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Pankaj

Ravee Bhat

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Sep 1, 2024, 1:14:42 PMSep 1
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Yes. Will definitely share.

But you are right. There are many other details that matter.
Perhaps Kaushik sir can provide more input regarding them!

Regards
Ravee
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