14102011-BS-1 A small herb from Pujam Karnal Haryana or id

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Balkar Singh

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Oct 14, 2011, 1:31:23 PM10/14/11
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Dear All
pls id this small herb about 20cm-30cm. with opposite leaves
found wild in a marshy area in Pujam Karnal Haryana 
Thanks

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Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
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Balkar Singh

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Oct 14, 2011, 1:41:06 PM10/14/11
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Nidhan Singh

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Oct 14, 2011, 8:04:19 PM10/14/11
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Hi,

This should be Ammania sp. may be A. coccinea.


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Dr. Nidhan Singh
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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 14, 2011, 9:51:39 PM10/14/11
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I think Nidhan ji is right

A. coccinea appears closest. Is it reported from the area?


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Balkar Singh

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Oct 14, 2011, 10:37:15 PM10/14/11
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Thanks Gurcharan Ji and Nidhan Ji. If it is A coccinea then it is a new report from Haryana. However Ammania auriculata found in the area.
Me agree with A coccinea

Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 14, 2011, 10:43:15 PM10/14/11
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If it is a new record, kindly wait for fruits to appear to confirm. 



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Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

Balkar Singh

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Oct 14, 2011, 10:45:34 PM10/14/11
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Thanks Sir Try to visit that area in near future soon

Samir Mehta

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Oct 15, 2011, 5:51:33 AM10/15/11
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Balkar ji, Nidhan ji, Gurcharan ji,

Found the post interesting;
Was trying to verify the id as a part of my learning process when I
came across the keys to the species;

Please see:

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=VAkHZ_ctLeoC&pg=PA588&lpg=PA588&dq=rotala+coccinea&source=bl&ots=LsL0WPLCAL&sig=jpV2jEF8lkV6ZvgpE2vPR_9rPRc&hl=en&ei=xRSZToLkNMTSrQfQpoiMBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=rotala%20coccinea&f=false

Hope it helps.

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Samir

PS: due to connectivity problems may not be able to reply immediately,
if required.






On Oct 15, 7:45 am, Balkar Singh <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Sir Try to visit that area in near future soon
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> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If it is a new record, kindly wait for fruits to appear to confirm.
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> >http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=101366
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> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired  Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
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> > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Balkar Singh <balkara...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >> Thanks Gurcharan Ji and Nidhan Ji. If it is A coccinea then it is a new
> >> report from Haryana. However Ammania auriculata found in the area.
> >> Me agree with A coccinea
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> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >>> I think Nidhan ji is right
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> >>> A. coccinea appears closest. Is it reported from the area?
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> >>> --
> >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >>> Retired  Associate Professor
> >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> >>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 15, 2011, 7:45:13 AM10/15/11
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Thanks Samir ji
There is also a good key in eFlora of China. 


Since they are based on different characters, one can make a more useful key to cover species expected in the area

1a. Leaves scabrid above; hypanthium 4-angled; epicalyx prominent; calyx scabrid......................A. verticillata
1b. Leaves not scabrid above; hypanthium campanulate, not 4-angled, epicalyx obscure
     calyx glabrous..................................................................................................................(2) 

2a. Leaves attenuate or truncate at base; petals absent; style shorter than the ovary; cymes
     sessile and dense; flowers sessile........................................................................................A. baccifera
2b. Leaves auriculate often clasping at base; petals present; cymes pedunculate; flowers
      pedicellate........................................................................................................................(3)

3a. Style half as long as ovary or shorter, capsule 1.5 mm in diam,; petals 1 mm long; calyx 
      reflexed in fruit....................................................................................................................A. multiflora
3b. Style as long as ovary or longer, capsule 2-5 mm in diam; petals 1.5-2 mm long......................(4)

4a. Capsule 2-3.5 mm in diam; flowers usually 7 (3-15); capsule as long or longer than calyx
      lobes.................................................................................................................................A. auriculata 
4b. Capsule 3.5-5 mm in diam; flowers usually 3 (3-5); capsule shorter than or barely equalling
     the calyx lobes...................................................................................................................A. coccinea



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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 

Balkar Singh

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Oct 15, 2011, 11:10:41 AM10/15/11
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Thanks Samir Ji and Gurcharan Ji for the key

J.M. Garg

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Nov 11, 2017, 12:59:08 AM11/11/17
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I would like to go with Ammannia auriculata Willd. for the time being.
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