End of suffering’ possible

6 views
Skip to first unread message

SURESH JAGADEESAN

unread,
Jan 29, 2013, 5:04:12 AM1/29/13
to MerchantNavy, indianmariners
My old conversations:

Phantom: Change seems to ride on the arrow of time. Based on this
observation, change seems to be inevitable. Some changes are under our
apparent control (weather or not I answer your email). However, most
of the change seems to be beyond our control (death, planetary orbit,
expansion of the universe, death of a star, rise and fall of
civilizations etc. etc). Our model making machine has a tendency to
anthropomorphize the observed changes that are beyond our control,
this generating the notion of predetermination. So, yes, I agree that
free will is limited simply because we have limited control over the
universe. Fate is a very understandable term, as majority of events we
experience are indeed beyond our control.

Suresh: You have yourself accepted the limitation of science. The
science of objects is the same as science of this body & mind. We are
not individuals. Or in other words ‘No man is an island’. It is a
process. This study of this process is called spirituality. Process as
it is implied it is interlinked or related. If I am supposed to get
into an accident, means it is not merely my own negligence, the root
of my negligence depends on somebody.

Each and every thought occurs in my mind due to somebody or due to
certain external environmental factors. Hence this question of ‘who am
I’ is very significant. That is, am I merely this process or beyond
that? Or this process happens in me and I merely watch? Since I have
no control over the process, I cannot be this process, but I am aware
of this process. So I am this awareness and not the process. This is
the beginning of freedom from the process. As long as with ignorance
if we think we are process, we suffer, but if we keenly observe the
process, there is a realization that we are not process. This does not
require any belief. This requires only our dedicated observation on
the thought, since thought is the replica of what happens in the outer
world.

Yesterday I had small accident with my bike. It was going to rain and
I was riding on my bike in the whites road and that time there was no
traffic, so I speed up, but suddenly one cyclist crossed the road, so
my leg immediately applied break, but very far from him, poor judgment
and hence skid and fell. But not much hurt, but slight scratch on the
left knee.

But I did not liked this accident, I cursed the god, why are you
giving me any such pain and who asked to rain now. When I reached
home, after refreshing I went to bed to relax, there it occurred to my
mind that accepts whatever comes. Don’t think you are not supposed to
go through all these. My life, if I see back, this is what I am
supposed to go through, it cannot be other way, to think it could have
been like this or that could have been like this, if I did this or if
I not etc are stupid. When I realized this truth, mind went so quiet
and body become still, the pain I was going through are not felt and I
forcibly to think there was pain on my left knee. But again this state
was disturbed by my wife.

What I want to state here is that when we accept this process as it is
with no participation in it, there is a freedom from it. This freedom
occurred to me temporarily only at many times, but is there a
permanent freedom from this process, so that there is end of suffering
possible.

This is what Buddha was teaching. He says ‘end of suffering’ possible.
In Hinduism many talk about god, ‘self’ moksha or liberation etc., It
is like stating a same matter by different words in different
language. For example in English we call water as water, in Tamil it
is called ‘Thanni’ in Telugu it may be called as ‘Neelu’ in Malayalam
it may be called as’ vella’ etc., How we call does not matter what
matters is, do we have that matter called water to quench our thirst
or not.

So think whether there could be any freedom from this process or in
other words, freedom from the mind.

Best wishes
Suresh


--
Thanks and best regards
J.Suresh
New No.3, Old No.7,
Chamiers road - 1st Lane,
Alwarpet,
Chennai - 600018
Ph: 044 42030947
Mobile: 91 9884071738
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages