RE: [Branded Indian] Is Hindu dharma good and Hindutva bad? -- Mariawirth

[Babu Suseelan]

I lived in Germany for three years.
I used to take a train to Auschwitz where Hitler and Germans have gassed more than 6 million innocent, hard working law abiding Jews. Germans, I found are nationalists, hard working and very hostile to foreigners.

They are seldom  listen to our Bhajans or read Hindu ideas and philosophy. They seldom have any idea of Dharma. Proud and nationalist Germans like Hitler and his nationalist ideas where Jews are to be killed. Israel knows it. That Germans can create another holocaust against foreigners. American army is all over Germany and pumped billions of Tax payers money  for Germany to industrialize after the second world war. Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism know fully well how German Christians can create another holocaust. 

 Because Hindus knows the no person-as well as no nations- can truly exist with their linear, mechanistic, reductionist thinking. Hindus are attacked in german press because, because ca no longer exist without a national identity. Identity formation is very important for any person around the world to live freely on their own values and systemic thinking.

More than one billion Hindus have no nation of their own. When I was in Germany , I saw several Hindus from India. I saw them saying "I am a punjabi, I am Sindhi, I am Madrasi, I am a christina from Kerala., Iam a B=a Maharashtrian from Mumbai:". I have never heard from an Indian that "I am a Hindu from Bharat".

Religious identity formation is psychologically very important for a person to grow,  and for  coping and adaptations, for his growth and developement. Theodre Herzl who wrote a book on Jewish stadt" on German has conducted reserach studies on Jewsih people. We all know that Jewsih people were kicked out of their own himwland by Christians, they qwere killed in Egypt, harassed in Spain and masscred in Gwermany. The vatican and christiands endorsed and provided support to the he Germasns for Murdering six million Jwesish people in and around Germany. Thoseore Herzl studied German Jews and said that we need a nation for Jews. He  amd his entire family of Jews were killed before the formation of Israel. Isareal was created in 1948. Ben Gurian, Mose dayan, Golda Meyer and prominant Jewish leaders were able to kick out the British Christian colnizatirs from palestine and established a Tiny Israel for Jewsih People. Can any boy in the world can ifonre Jewish peoople and Israel. , Their contribution in sceince, helth Industry, in philosophy, and economics? If Muslims can cooperate with three million Jewish people in Isreal, they could make the entire Middle eats a blooming garden. Cheristians and Muslims have formed an holy alliance against tiny, democractic, peace loving, and progressive Israel and three million Jewish people. There are only 15 Million Jewish people around the world. Their contributins in Literature, enconomics, Science, health sceince, cannot be ignore. There are more than 900 Jewish people were awarded NOBEL price. There are 1.6 Billlion Muslims and there are 72 Nations have identified as Islamic states. Hoe masny nobel ptice winners are there among Muslims? Of course they have created sevearl Bin Ladens, Colonel Hyadaphis, Ayatollah Khimeni, Bber, and Aurangzeb's.

Coming back to Germany and their hate against  systemic Hindu thoughts.We should never forget that every thing Adolf Hitler did was legal, humane. It was illegal to comfort jew in Hitlers Germany.

First, I have to confess i have been greatly disappointed with German Christians. I have to conclude that Hindus great stumbling block to freedom is not the German Christian writing  on Hindutva,but the pseudo secular Hindus  who are  more interested in getting an applause from Muslims and Christians than from Hindus. I had hoped that secular Hindus  would understand the concept of a Hindu Rashtra. They are interetsed in blocking social progress of Hindus.Secular Hindus have accepted the unjust life. We merely not interested in creating tensions betrrn Christinad-s, Mulsims and Hindus. We merely bring to the surface the hidden agenda of our enemies. Like a boil that can neverbe cured so long it is covered  up. It must be opened .

LEt me remind Christians and Muslims . We were under your oppression for a longtime. Oppressed Hindus cannot remain oppressedm forever.The yearnings i for freedom eventually manifests itself. Consciously, or unconsciously,  Hindus from Bharat, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Caribbean Islands, Fiji, Surinam,  and  South Asia are moving with a sense of great urgency towards the creation of a Hindu Rashtra .

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Subject: Re: [Branded Indian] Is Hindu dharma good and Hindutva bad? -- Mariawirth

 

The Christians worship a corpse 

AND

The Muslims slaughter thousands and thousands of animals in the name of sacrifice to satisfy their own palates.

In Hinduism animal sacrifice has been abandoned more than 2 Thousand years ago.

However, the Hindus are experts at shooting their own feet.

Bhalchandra G. Thattey
Shubham Bhavatu

 

Maitri, Karuna, Mudita, Upeksha

Chitta_Prasadanam

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Is Hindu dharma good and Hindutva bad? -- Mariawirth 

IS HINDU DHARMA GOOD AND HINDUTVA BAD?

February 25, 2014 · by mariawirthblog ·  14 Comments 

 “When Germany is Christian, is India Hindu?” got amazingly good response with thousands of facebook likes. However, some readers felt I made a mistake by not distinguishing between good, tolerant Hinduism, which is a private belief, and bad, intolerant Hindutva, which stands for the ‘communal agenda of an extreme right Hindu party’ that wants to force uniform Hinduism on this vast country, an act which is completely un-Hindu and against the pluralism of India.

Is Hindutva really different from Hindu Dharma and dangerous? Or have those, which coined the term, an interest in making it look like that? No doubt, Hindutva has a bad name in the eyes of many, in spite of the ruling of the Supreme Court in 1995:

“Hindutva is indicative more of the way of life of the Indian people. …Considering Hindutva as hostile, inimical, or intolerant of other faiths, or as communal proceeds from an improper appreciation of its true meaning.”

I would like to explain from a personal angle, why I came to the conclusion that it is indeed ‘an improper appreciation of its true meaning’, when Hindutva is branded as communal and dangerous.

For many years I lived in ‘spiritual India’ without any idea how important the terms ‘’secular’ and ’communal’ were. The people I met were appreciative of India’s great heritage. They gave me tips which texts to read, which sants to meet, which mantras to learn, etc., and I wrote about it for German readers. I used to think that all Indians are genuinely proud of their ancestors, who had stunningly deep insights into what is true about us and the universe and who left a huge legacy of precious ancient texts unparalleled in the world.

However, when I settled in a ‘normal’ environment away from ashrams and pilgrimage places and connected with the English speaking middle class including some foreign wives, I was shocked that several of my new friends with Hindu names were ridiculing Hinduism without knowing much about it. They had not even read the Bhagavad-Gita, but pronounced severe judgment. They gave the impression as if Hinduism was the most depraved and violent of all religions and responsible for all the ills India is facing. The caste system and crude rules of Manusmiti were quoted as proof. Reading newspapers and watching TV, I also discovered an inexplicable, yet clear anti Hindu stand.

My new acquaintances had expected me to join them in denouncing ‘primitive’ Hinduism which I could not do as I knew too much, not only form reading extensively, but also from doing sadhana. They were not amused and declared that I had read the wrong books. They asked me to read the right books, which would give me the ‘correct’ understanding. They obviously did not doubt their own view to be the correct one. However, instead of coming around by reading Romila Thapar and co, I rather got the impression that there was an intention behind the negative portrayal of Hinduism: Christianity and Islam were meant to look good in comparison. My neighbour, a writer with communist leanings, henceforth introduced me to his friends as “the local RSS pracharak”. Many ‘secular’ Indians consider the RSS as Hindu fundamentalists, occasionally equating it even with Islamic terror groups. So no surprise that an elderly lady once retorted, “In this case I am not pleased to meet you.”

What was my ‘fault’? I dared to say that I love Hindu Dharma, as it (its off- springs Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism included) is the only religion that is inclusive and not divisive, whereas Christianity and Islam divide humanity into those who have the ‘true faith’ and those who are wrong and will pay for it eternally in hell, if not already on earth. Standing up for Hindu Dharma (and not only following it in private) indicted me as belonging to the ‘Hindutva brigade’ that is shunned by mainstream media. Of course my stand is neither communal nor dangerous for India. Hindu Dharma is indeed inclusive, and needs to gain strength at the expense of Christianity and Islam, which are exclusive and therefore communal.

No doubt something is seriously wrong about the public discourse on ‘secular’ and ‘communal’ in India. I can’t believe that those media anchors and invited guests don’t know it. Indians are intelligent. So why would they get secular and communal wrong?

Secular means worldly in contrast to sacred or religious, and secularism is a western concept.  State and religion were intertwined since Christianity became state religion in the Roman Empire. The Church declared what is the truth, for example that that Jesus is the only way or that the earth is flat, and everyone had to agree. If scientists disagreed, they were in serious trouble. Not without reason those centuries of Church domination are called ‘dark ages’ and the liberation from her tight embrace is called the era of ‘Enlightenment’. For Christian Europe, it was a great and hard fought achievement to get ‘secular’ states, where the Church could not push anymore her agenda through state laws. Several centuries ago, even the Sunday mass was obligatory in German kingdoms. Nobody was allowed to leave Christianity. The blasphemy laws kept the flock in check. Heresy was punished severely. Jews suffered discrimination and persecution all through history being branded as the killers of Jesus.

After Martin Luther split the Church into Protestants and Catholics, fierce wars were fought over supremacy which destroyed much of central Europe. In 1648, after 30 years of fighting, a compromise was found: the subjects of a region had to follow the religion of their ruler. Only in 1847, a Prussian king introduced a law for ‘negative religious freedom’, which meant, his subjects had the right to leave the Catholic or Protestant Church. Ever since, the Churches are losing sheep from their flock. It points to the fact that Christianity did not grow because its dogmas were convincing. It gained strength because those born in the faith could not leave it. The blasphemy laws propped up Christianity.

India has a completely different story. Sanatana Dharma was never based on unreasonable dogmas and did not need state oppression to keep believers in check. It was not in opposition to science. It was helpful to society as a whole by giving guidelines for an ideal life that acknowledges the invisible, conscious essence in the visible universe. It did not straight jacket people into an unbelievable belief system. It allowed freedom of thought and many parallel streams with different ways to connect to this essence emerged. “Hinduism is a way of life”, is often said. Following Hindu Dharma is actually anideal way of life.

Since I grew up in the Catholic Church and know the narrow mindedness that is indoctrinated into children, I wonder why on earth Indians would prefer dogmatic religions to their ancient, benign Dharma. Don’t they see the real communal danger? Those ‘secular’ friends, who fiercely defend the right of the religious minorities to assert their exclusive identity, don’t seem to realise that both, Christianity and Islam cannot live with others peacefully. Both religions need to dominate. And both are very powerful worldwide, politically and financially. As long as they have not yet the numbers in India, they may downplay the central tenet of exclusiveness in their ideologies. But exist it does.

Secularism has dented the influence of Christianity in the west. But the Church did not give up its goal to make the whole mankind believe in Christ, and focusses now on the huge mass of Hindus. In Islam, the clergy still has a hold on the faithful and in several Muslim countries leaving Islam is punishable by death. As the Quran itself forbids the followers to leave the faith, it is difficult to forego the blasphemy laws.

The Indian secularists seem to fight for the right of Christianity and Islam to be communal and for their followers not to integrate into the Indian society, but to stress their separate identity. And what is this separate identity? It is merely an unverifiable belief that gravely impacts the mind-set. This mind-set not only creates outsiders, but it creates outsiders that are looked down upon. How can educated Indians be blind to the danger and risk having in future more partitions on the basis of unsubstantiated religious beliefs, including the risk of more terrible bloodshed?

Strangely, the dogmatic, exclusive religions are not accused of being divisive, but Hinduism is. Why? Hindus are required to see Brahman, the one Godhead, in everyone, never mind how he connects to his creator. In contrast, the followers of dogmatic religions are not required to respect those who reject their respective ‘true religion’. They are even allowed to hate them. The ease, with which Christians and Muslims killed unbelievers, is frightening. Only 70 years ago six million Jews were murdered in cold blood in gas chambers in Germany. Only a little over 40 years ago, hundred thousands, if not millions, of Hindus were butchered in Bangladesh. There are many more examples. Humanity needs to win over such madness. How? Hindu Dharma has the key: acknowledge that we are all members of one family – coming from the same source with the same blood as it were…

By Maria Wirth

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   Srinivas Rau · February 25, 2014 - 5:54 am · Reply→

   The Hindu View of Life is good, the Hindu view of the world is bad.
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      mariawirthblog · February 25, 2014 - 9:07 am · Reply→

      “vasudhaiva kutumbakam” – is it bad to consider the world as one family??
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      vasuerfolg · February 25, 2014 - 4:30 pm · Reply→

      Hi Srinivas Rau, You need to explain your cryptic statement.
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   balaji690 · February 25, 2014 - 7:25 am · Reply→

   Ms.Maria, that was another nice article from your crystal clear mind which analyzes precisely every other religion with Hinduism or the belief that shows the ‘ way of life ‘.

   Hinduism never fought with any other religion in the fast nor will do in the future. It does fear about to co-exit with other religion in Bharat. However, a minor fights among Hindus (Sivas Vs.Vaishnavas) was definitely there some time. These things, in fact, propelled the people to understand much in-depth of the Hinduism rather feeling bad of being born in this religion.

   Please keep analyzing further on Hinduism like now and write more articles, may be, like you said, the born Hindus who does not know much knowledge about their own religion will have some chance to know about this great religion.

   When all Muslims in this country pray everyday that ‘ there is no other God, other than Allah ‘, all tolerant Hindus in this country silently hear it and continue there routine work everyday without making any issue. What more secularism you want show to this World?
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   balaji690 · February 25, 2014 - 7:27 am · Reply→

   Pl. kindly bear with me some typographical mistakes in my reply.
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   Maria Lozano · February 25, 2014 - 11:02 am · Reply→

   Even beyond the amazing quality of your article, what I wish everybody could feel is the spirit backing it: I am sure this is the result of a dharmic lifestyle attuned to Bhagavan, the enthusiasm you convey can come only from Him. Truth expresses Herself through your words, and what is Truth but Him.
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   cutie · February 25, 2014 - 1:07 pm · Reply→

   Whenever someone’s ask you about your caste then your answer should be to them is:
   I am a Brahmin in knowledge
   I am kshatriya in valor
   I am vaishya in business
   I m shudra in service
   In the end I am just sanatam dharmi hindu and nothing else..Then say you proud to be a hindu..
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   kedilaya · February 25, 2014 - 2:14 pm · Reply→

   In india any thing said in favor of hindus or he who share their beliefs ,immediately branded as pro hindutva..and there fore communal.any comments /criticism against hindu beliefs or hindus considered secular…and there fore forward..any comments against christianity or islam as communal and comments /action favoring their beliefs as secular…this has nothing to do with religion..and every thing about vote bank politics and so called modernity….but every hindu in his belief is a very tolerant person ,does not have inhibitions in worshiping any god or his creations ,and BELIEVES IN peaceful co existance but gets confused and angry when he is unfavorably targeted every were hence behaves some times as though communal especially against constant attacks by muslim and christian and so called secular theologians and politicians..an hindu is made communal by others ….and that is the truth…he never had conflicts with greeks,parsis,jews,huns ,buddists ,jains,sikhs,in indias history….but with these all attacking christians and muslims
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   vasuerfolg · February 25, 2014 - 4:31 pm · Reply→

   Dear Mariajee,

   Thanks once again for your true trade-mark writing displaying your amazing insight into Dharma

   Vasudevan
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   Rajan Kumar · February 25, 2014 - 6:17 pm · Reply→

   The article has been written with great clarity. It literally strips the religions nude for all to see.
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   Rajan Kumar · February 25, 2014 - 6:19 pm · Reply→

   All that needs to be done is to line up all the people of the world and ask whether they would like to be free or with christianity or islam .
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    Sathya · February 25, 2014 - 10:34 pm · Reply→

    If only the English speaking Educated middle class has some brains and a little reason in it or if they choose to come out of their fool’s paradise they would realize, what it takes to be a Hindu and what is the real meaning of Hindutva. No allegiance to a standard book or rules or customs, one can pick their own way with out affecting others fundamental freedom.
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    Rajeshwer sharma · February 26, 2014 - 1:42 am · Reply→

    Maria,
    You write wonderfully well . I wonder, how many people have access to your writings. Are these articles published in other columns? Accessibility of these needs to be increased to make it broad based and more in language accessibility may be starting with hindi. Please consider this. Thanks
    Rajeshwer.
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       mariawirthblog · February 26, 2014 - 5:39 am · Reply→

       Some websites took a few articles from my blog and posted them on their sites, like Hindu Human rights, Indiafacts, Bharat bharati and forum for Hindu awakening. If you can help spreading them further, please do so. I am not organised, prefer writing.
       Maria

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