Email Evidence (Secrete emails to other men's wives)
DanRepent
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posted by danrepent:
-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth Nelson [mailto:enels...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:07 AM
To: mi...@hisfeet.org
Subject: about "spousal authority"...
Hi,
I don't know where to start (like usual). I found that "spousal
authority" letter you wrote last year under my bed tonight. Then not
two minutes later I opened up the "women's role" book and there it was
again! Anyway, I needed to read it tonight. Vince got caught in the
p**nography again a few weeks ago and since then it has been an all out
war. He is afraid of losing the family/marriage so he has totally
bullied me in a corner-- even almost taking them out of state w/out me
to prove that he has the right to be with "his children" w/out my
approval. I have been so full of fear (in many areas) but specifically
that he will try to take the children and accuse me of being in a cult.
He has used my mother in this (who already has her problems with me
because she wants a relationship that i can't give to her) and she has
stood with him. I talked to some ladies tonight and that was hard too.
I will forward "notes" that Shelly typed out afterward. I am tired of
being a wimp. I agree with what was said. I really don't know how to
walk through this. Vince keeps accusing me of controlling when I
protect the children and even just in directing them. There is
something in his accusation that has shaken me. It's true I have not
wanted him to be in control and he hasn't been until he got caught in
sin and started blaming me. He says I've taken control over the house.
What choice did i have? He has been gone and he's no leader. I know I
need to protect the children, but I can't stop him from taking them
again without a fight. I want to see why it shakes me. I feel sooo
powerless. I feel like his tactics on saying he was taking them to
Pennsylvania worked. I am BEGGING for a miracle!!!!!! I am asking God
to forgive me and deliver me from the fear of man. I have to let go of
what every person i know might think! I want to hear and obey! I have
been afraid because I have nowhere to go. I want to tell you this and
not fear the risk. I have been asking God since I found the computer
stuff if i should stay or go. And i still don't know but i am asking
God to make me completely willing. While no one has told me what to do
i feel like in the conversation tonight it was encouraged to protect
the children no matter what. On the same token it was said by someone
that I haven't proven myself with Jesus so i couldn't stay with anyone
of them. I am probably wrong to be offended but I am. I don't deny that
so many selfish motives have been exposed for which i am so grateful to
Him. But something about thinking I have to prove something to people
is what i am trying to stay away from. I believe His timing is perfect
in all of this. PLEEAASE rebuke, correct, shine light, etc. love,
elizabeth
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(continued)
-----Original Message-----
From: "mike" <mi...@hisfeet.org>
To: "'Elizabeth Nelson'" <enels...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 09:15:31 -0500
Subject: RE: about "spousal abuse and covenant-breaking betrayal"...
Hi Liz........ I do understand the difficulties here, no doubt. The
pain and confusion and unknowns can be quite anguishing, beyond
question. You must TRUST Him that if you do your best for HIM, it will
work out in the end. If someone told you "You must not murder" they
would not be "telling you what to do" - but only reporting what God has
said. In your many opportunities to murder someone, then, you should
remember God's Command, and SPECIFICALLY CHOOSE those decisions, on
your own, of how to apply that Truth. The same is true for "YOU MUST
PROTECT THE CHILDREN." There are many specifics you must apply on your
own to obey this Command from God. The Command to "not be worse than an
infidel" by not protecting them, and the many other Scriptures are not
"telling you what to do" -- but giving you GOD'S MANDATE for you.
You'll have to figure out what that means, day to day. As for the
"living situation" I'm sure they didn't mean to "insult" you, but just
to point out that "the double minded woman is unstable in all her ways"
and that unless you are "without wavering, fully persuaded" and not a
"weak-willed woman" -- then you will vacillate and waver and be
unstable, NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE. Perhaps you can find a "christian
attorney" or someone who can tell you what you can legally do to
protect yourself from a fornicating, abusive, child-napper, should you
choose to do that? But, that's all up to you. I do know that even pagan
women don't put up with the abusive situation, the covenant breaking
betrayals, and "locking children in rooms away from their mother" and
things you have tolerated. But, that's all up to you......
Regardless, PRAYING WITH YOU........ Love, mike
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posted by Danrepent on behalf of Elizabeth Nelson
----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth Nelson [mailto:enels...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:48 AM
To: mi...@Hisfeet.org
Subject: Fwd: RE: about "spousal abuse and covenant-breaking
betrayal"...
Thanks for telling the truth... I know something has to change. I
wasn't insulted by anything that's been said except about "proving
myself"-- I'm sure that i took that the wrong way and i want to clear
that up. i stayed up last night looking up child custody laws and
divorce laws. Anyway---thank you for praying and listening and writing
back. Love, elizabeth
---------- Original message ----------
From: "mike" <mi...@hisfeet.org>
To: "'Elizabeth Nelson'" <enels...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 11:02:57 -0500
Subject: RE: RE: about "spousal abuse and covenant-breaking
betrayal"...
I have always thought of you as "very special"....... Stay close to
Him..... xoxoox
DanRepent
Here are some examples of some emails that you all may be interested
in. Plus if I may add I witnessed first hand Mike counseling a wife to
take her children and run if her husband tried to take the children
with him to a local church gathering (non-Peterite or should I say
anti-Peterite). This was right on the heels of a "movement" in the
group for everyone to make sure everyone has a passport and that it is
up to date.
Some emails (note the commentary at the bottom):
-----Original Message-----
From: mike [mailto:mi...@Hisfeet.org]
To: '<husband> & <wife> <lastname>'
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:42 PM
Subject: RE: slander/willls
Hi <wife>...
Well, we COULD start with <husband>'s slander and namecalling this way:
it puts him in direct judgment and into the "fires of hell" according
to Jesus. No matter how he "feels" about it........ (Mat. 5:23)
-----Original Message-----
From: mike [mailto:mi...@Hisfeet.org]
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2003 4:13 PM
To: '<husband> & <wife> <lastname>'
>> they probably think I'm terrible for not going to church every Sonday with my husband
what kind of unBiblical vocabulary ("go to church") is THAT??! Yucko!
As for <friend> and the rest - don't get into a discusion trying to
justify yourself. NOWHERE does the Bible command you to hold hands and
give away affection to a hypocrite. Jesus SURELY didn't! (Mat.23!) Try
to be kind as much as possible, don't argue, but DON'T YOKE WITH
HYPOCRISY.
-----Original Message-----
From: mike [mailto:mi...@Hisfeet.org]
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2003 1:02 PM
To: '<husband> & <wife> <lastname>'
<wife> you should say, "<husband> what do you want from me? tell me how
you want me- to be except don't expect me to believe you're a christian
when i see your temper and your life. i can be a great wife in every
other respect i know how, but the Scriptures define a christian in luke
9:57-63 and 1jn.3 and many other places, and the Spirit of Jeus inside
of you? i see no way base on the lack of "fruit of the spirit" and the
obvious continuation in "the acts of the sinful nature" in Gal.5. So
tell me how you want me to be in matters NOT related to 'church' and
'prayer' and the like, and I'll do my best to change. But, until i see
you have a conversion experience and the marks of conversion in luke9,
1jn.3, gal.5 etc, DON'T demand that i accept you "christianity" until
it meets BIBLICAL measurements! Everything else i want to improve in,
but don't ask me to deny the BIBLE and Teachings of JESUS and accept
yours and <friend>'s definitions instead of the exact quotes from
JESUS."
-----Original Message-----
From: mike [mailto:mi...@Hisfeet.org]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:19 PM
To: '<husband> & <wife> <lastname>'
Subject: RE: <friend> put us on the radio 2-nite!
<wife>, perhaps you can highlight that legal advertisement that I sent
you when answering your question about slander and libel -- and smile
and hand it to <friend> and ask him if he really likes living in a
house, instead of an apartment?
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Names edited out (except Mike) for covering over the effected family.
Commentary on the above emails:
1) Jan.14, 2003: Mike telling another man's wife how to judge the
salvation of her husband.
2) Jan.15, 2003: Mike telling another man's wife to NOT hold hands with
her husband or give affection to him. Mike again tells her how to judge
him (a "Hypocrite"). He also says not to "YOKE" with her husband (which
may mean NOT to have sex with him).
3) Jan.20, 2003: Mike telling another man's wife how to interact with
her husband, and again telling her how to judge his Christian
testimony. Mike directly tells her to NOT go to church or to PRAY with
her husband. Ironically, Mike is telling her how to be a "biblical
wife" while telling her to withhold most things a wife should be giving
her husband.
If you wish to contact me my address is:
In Christ's freedom,
First_Truth