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LALIT GUPTA

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Aug 23, 2020, 2:18:29 AM8/23/20
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Dear Ashok Ji,

Why u wasting time to convince self style DADA & paid googlers who always  write with biased approach without basic knowledge & true information.

He will never write about misuse of IIISLA money in name of Aurangabad Case, Commission received in PA policy, Bogus claim paid in B F , skip out from IAC meeting by subjudice President,  illegal IIISLA election , recruitment of personel friends in IIISLA admin office,
Promotion of Contractor etc etc.

The person DADA himself claimed as fellow members  but snatching job of Licenciate members in his local city by using assistants & in google borad writing about ethics. These  fellow are now exposed in front of common members so no need to entertain them & do as you are continuous doing in interest of common members.

Every members know very well about our achievement as amendment in insurance act 2015 with incorporation of IIISLA, Form-19 & Categorisation letter as a part of regulation 2017, Mandatory IIISLA membership, MOF Recommendation for charter Status so all team members should continue with their efforts to save profession without taking a note of these paid googlers.

We will certainly succeed to achieve our goal to save IIISLA & noble survey profession 

Rgds

Lalit Gupta

On Sun, Aug 23n, 2020 at 10:09 AM, 'ashok kumar' via surveyors-voice
Dear Sharma jee,

Namaskar 

I would to add few facts about Regulation 2015.
1. NSL was passed in IAC committee in February 2015 when there was no elected council and / or representation of the council. Every one alleging including few council members without having any Minutes of meeting of IAC. If they have guts then produce the proves. I don't like to reply on I'll motivated matter. 
2. Regulation 2015 was protested thereafter on all platform including IAC by IIISLA and ultimately a joint meeting was arranged in arbitratorship of Ministry and relaxation on qualification and NSL was Amendment as Regulation 2017 ( amendment) for which a cash was filed in Aurangabad H'court without having any knowledge of the amendment in Regulation 2015. 
3. Yes, I left the council due to confusion within council as created by IT person Mr.Shiva and without having the IT based Infrastructure and ONOP it was difficult for me to continue as President further hence I send a letter to all council members that I am not interest to continue as the President and will support the council from outside and from that day to till today I am committed for the IIISLA, though present council did not taken a notice on my proposals but then too my commitment for our lovely institute still continues as many members having like you. 
4. No any council members forced me to resign or left the council and it was my own decision. 
5. As far decision of court case on Regulation 2020 is concern, my personal opinion was that a joint meeting with the ministry must be conducted before filing the case bcz in any condition IIISLA cannot get relaxation and empowerment with support of Ministry and neglecting attitude of MOF will harm the image of IIISLA.

I don't like to make any comment on the final decision because it has been politicalised by all interested party . 

Sir, 
Please concentrate on basic need of the members which has been affected badly by EOI/LAA contracts. Hon'ble President has assured that council will take action against them after 14th August but nothing happened other than violation of AoA/ RPCEC and misappropriation of fund to insure themselves by taking Directors indemnity policy from IIISLA fund or PA policy through agent and misuse of legal expenses with out concent of council for their own purposes. 

I know you are one who always think for the betterment of IIISLA but keep open your eyes as a critic in positive sense whatever who are in the council or not. 

Positive criticism will be always appreciated by everyone. I am not criticising any one, just advising for good health of IIISLA in view of Law, Regulations, MoA/AoA and RPCEC of IIISLA. 

With regards 

Ashok Kumar 


On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 16:5Dear 1, J.K Sharma - Surveyor
Respected All:
The elected body of III SLA was on its move without caring the criticism by the previous and rejected members, rather the majority of members never listen to them but a selected egoist group who could not digest the rejection pain and want to be in the limelight for their future in III SLA, regularly finding the gap to make the members irritate. 
The efforts of III SLA team show the results, their dedication, vision and ability. They are getting the appreciation from the members but even then some of them are interpreting the achieved success as a failure of the law. Surprisingly, their motto is to only criticize the elected team. We know that these fellows will drag us again in worst situations sourly. Even at the last step the appeal to send the irritating mail, to the parliamentarian without any gain only to misguide the members and III SLA was discarded. The same thing was done at Janter Manter orgy of the profession. What more remains to see?
The members were stunned by a message on the board that the sky is going to fall especially on us and keep our self ready awake, in wait of an emergency call keeping the mobile, laptop or computer ready to counter the falling sky. But nothing happened. IIISLA already challenged regulation 2020 in the court which has given a fair verdict/guideline seems in favour of us.
Here we must appreciate the elected team for a strong, planed, wishful and timely decision and challenged prematurely in advance and could get the result in our favour. If the same action would have been taken in 2015 and such decision delivered in our favour, the profession may have been in a better condition. I remember when Mr Ashok Kumar tried his best to challenge it but the so-called well-wishers who are trained conspirators and manipulator became the master and removed Sh. Ashok Kumar from the post of president III SLA. They were dancing on the tunes of IRDA and we suffered the ignorance till 2019. The regulation of 2015 was not challenged even then the demand of some senior members. The ignorance and sycophancy were at such a high level that we suffered the mismanagement, dictatorship and loot of III SLA money. Even now some court cases have been initiated to ruin the profession and blame the iiisla. The members should ask them, why they are ruining us, what more they want. They should not play with the sentiments of the members. We are the members of a professional body, know the good and bad of us and can not be misguided easily. we are able, if the sky will fall don't be the master of us. 
We must appreciate the timely action of an elected body and hope that they will keep it continue for our better future. The members are wisely supporting you but you also must prove yourself until the last of your term.
,With Regard's
dadashree.Sharma
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Email:- dadashree.sharma @gmail.com

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Ashok ji 
I agree with lalit ji don't even take note or even reply to such mails he has taken over as spokesperson after Mr. Anoop Kumar has resigned 
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DEAR SIRS,
it has become a common stalk to create havoc or self prising on the name of common members' interest, having left them to suicide or to see " neither hide nor hair of something."

leadership prime attitude is the battle of ideas, that too in a democracy where it demands perpetual participation.

on the basis of the reasoned idea, one needs to explore the difference but not a runaway with egoistic nature. that spells out a self-styled leadership personality. The different idea always makes the difference with other participants, but that does not mean to take to self-critic. 

 Every storyteller to a common member always awaits a new era.

any leader may play politics, but member needs a new compact approach to develop with professional dignity, POSSIBLE ONLY BY BY collaborated leadership.

common members present situation is a mirror of leadership at all the time and call for their self-appraisal, WHETHER TO BE  in the disguise of naming themselves as advisers

IDEAS OR ADVICES ARE AMPLE SUPPLY, SOLUTIONS ARE PROVING HARDER. 

VOICE OF COMMON MEMBER 
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M.Nageswara Rao
Ex -ASHOk LEYLAND SERVICE ENGINEER
CELL NO.9491663955

M.Nageswara Rao
Ex -ASHOk LEYLAND SERVICE ENGINEER
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