Re: Why is the most Responsible silent

[Vernon Dillen]

Dear bini

You are very right but much praise is being given to TS for his efforts as a member of the WG. No doubt he had a big role to play and to some extent with his efforts he was able to restrict the NSL but qualifications have gone through the roof also bringing all surveyors at par is ridiculous 

On the training front irda has taken a moderate decision as there was no fruitful training program held by iiisla it seems that irda feels that iiisla has no facility to impart training. Iiisla has the funds and there is no shortage of brains and experience and they can invite learned facility members but iiisla rather take the help of the private players to impart training and it proves that we don't have competent persons.

I had attended a trg in fire and miscellaneous at trichy earlier and the coordinators were late elango sir and are pandyain sir and the facility invited was great they were from our profession and SDM niacl trichy, a trg conducted by III Kolkata in miscellaneous was conducted by are member and sr manager nicl 

No private players were involved 

I don't see the reason why iiisla having well educated persons are not being used for sharing their knowledge and experience 

Mr Sunil Vora is very good in his field and so many others 

I still feel iiisla can salvage the situation and impress upon irda in such matters and have the member ship level 

Its my opinion as a lay member of iiisla 

Regards

V Dillen 

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020, 10:51 Binu Varkey, <binu.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Surveyors,

   I do not understand the silence of the CC on Surveyor Regulation 2020. The President and his team have been blind folded by IRDAI. The CC is not coming up with any actions to counter the Surveyor Regulation 2020. I feel very sorry to state the silence of the CC and its blind followers.

   With such a regulation coming in I need a clear answer from the present CC in respect of the following aspects.

1. Why do we need IIISLA?

2. IRDAI is insisting a third party to training the Surveyor?

3. The Independent Surveyor is being completely brought under control.

4. The In-House is completely made Independent.

5. There is no regulation to contain the violation of NSL by all the Private Sector Insurers.

6. There is no difference between a Surveyor who has just joined this profession and a Surveyor who has experience of more than 20 Years.

7. IRDAI has not considered a single representative from IIISLA for the Loss minimisation  working group. It believes brokers are more responsible for loss minimisation. (IIISLA did not respond or raise a grievance to IRDAI for this biased act)

8. IRDAI has not developed IIISLA as proposed till date and is not assigning any responsibilities to IIISLA.

9. The Surveyor Regulation 2020 is an intentional act of IRDAI to destroy the noble profession of Independent Surveyor in India.

10. Why was money spent on Court cases and why can't a case be filed in respect of Surveyor Regulation 2020.

I would request an action committee be formed in all the chapters of IIISLA in India and necessary action be taken in each state against  IRDAI's biased and unjustifiable act.

Regards

Binu Varkey

Insurance Surveyor

Mob:9447187319

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[rahul jadhav]

Mr Binu

Are you aspirants for the coming elections? Your mess clearly speaks about it.

Pl go through the activities of current CC , inspit of coved situations and inside traitors ,what work we have done?

Then only pass such comments

Regards

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020, 12:32 Binu Varkey, <binu.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Atul,

   Thanks for the response, but the fact is that the CC has not even lodged a protest letter to IRDAI regarding the "Surveyor Regulation 2020". So as stated in my email, the CC has no right to continue and should resign and hand over the same to IRDAI, so that IRDAI will be completely blamed by all Authorities. Mr.Atul, If Rahul Jadhav or any CC member had courage then they should have responded,when a problem has come in, instead they are silent, which is a clear indication that they expected this in the "Surveyor Regulation 2020" .

    Please do not blindly believe in any of the CC members because the lack of Unity among the CC members is the clear indication of such things happening. The situation is so worse that there is a big internal fight between CC members to the extent that the ruling CC members have kicked out a few of the CC members. This was clearly reflected in the decision to increase the Subscriptions, which was put off due to the protest by the members. 

     I am extremely sorry to state that IIISLA is of no use after  "Surveyor Regulation 2020" comes into effect and hence before that CC has to resign and request IRDAI to run IIISLA.

Regards

Binu Varkey

Insurance Surveyor

Mob:9447187319

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 11:07, Atul Deshpande <deshpande...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends

I had deep discussion onnthe issue of 2020 regulation with our secretary and problems raised by Shri Binu Ji. Cc are serious bout it and will do it in our favour what so ever will be possible.  The reply received on my wa is attached herewith.

Dear members

With the intervention of Hon  Delhi H C we could get relief on few issues like NSL .And for qualifications by the intervention of Hon Aurangabad HC , still it is found that few issues which are harmful for the independent surveyor in the recent amembded regulations , our Legal  team is studying it and definitely will explore all possibilities including legal to resolve this in the interest of the members.

Regards

Er Rahul Jadhav

National secretary IIISLA

Hope all members will keep this in mind and wait till action.

Thanks. 

With Best Regards
Atul Deshpande
Insurance Surveyor
Fellow Member F/w 03632
07972246542
Yavatmal

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 20:49 Binu Varkey <binu.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Surveyors,

   I do not understand the silence of the CC on Surveyor Regulation 2020. The President and his team have been blind folded by IRDAI. The CC is not coming up with any actions to counter the Surveyor Regulation 2020. I feel very sorry to state the silence of the CC and its blind followers.

   With such a regulation coming in I need a clear answer from the present CC in respect of the following aspects.

1. Why do we need IIISLA?

2. IRDAI is insisting a third party to training the Surveyor?

3. The Independent Surveyor is being completely brought under control.

4. The In-House is completely made Independent.

5. There is no regulation to contain the violation of NSL by all the Private Sector Insurers.

6. There is no difference between a Surveyor who has just joined this profession and a Surveyor who has experience of more than 20 Years.

7. IRDAI has not considered a single representative from IIISLA for the Loss minimisation  working group. It believes brokers are more responsible for loss minimisation. (IIISLA did not respond or raise a grievance to IRDAI for this biased act)

8. IRDAI has not developed IIISLA as proposed till date and is not assigning any responsibilities to IIISLA.

9. The Surveyor Regulation 2020 is an intentional act of IRDAI to destroy the noble profession of Independent Surveyor in India.

10. Why was money spent on Court cases and why can't a case be filed in respect of Surveyor Regulation 2020.

I would request an action committee be formed in all the chapters of IIISLA in India and necessary action be taken in each state against  IRDAI's biased and unjustifiable act.

Regards

Binu Varkey

Insurance Surveyor

Mob:9447187319

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[rahul jadhav]

Mr Binu

For your information all issues you have mentioned has been complied with and will be shared on our website ( most of them are already available on our website, pl take trouble to visit your website)

Anybody in the interest of fraternity  having potential and zeal shall come forward with inputs , they're most welcome.

We are here to protect the interests of the independent surveyors.

Regards

On Mon, 7 Dec 2020, 17:47 Binu Varkey, <binu.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Rahul Jadav,

    Please share to all of them in the group the following details.

       1. The Letter that IIISLA has sent to IRDAI regarding the issues pertaining to "Surveyor Regulation 2020".

       2. Letter regarding the non-inclusion of Surveyors in the Working Group for "Loss Minimisation"

       3. Any Technical Inputs shared with IRDAI till date.

       4. Any Protest Letter to IRDAI against EOI / Contract Surveys.

       5. Any Letter to Private Sector Insurer in respect of Violation of In-House Limits

       6. Any Letter to Chapters seeking opinion on any aspects.

Regards

Binu Varkey

Insurance Surveyor

Mob:9447187319

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