Re: {Surveyors:35188} Re: THE SKY HAS FALLEN

[rahul jadhav]

Dear Ashokji

Your quote

I would to add few facts about Regulation 2015.

1. NSL was passed in IAC committee in February 2015 when there was no elected council and / or representation of the council.

Unquote

Regulation 2015 came into force on 25th October 2015 , before this THREE IAC meetings took place /conducted and which were attended by you as a president IIISLA which is on record , IAC Meetings were held on

27h march 2015 , 

12th June 2015 and 

5th oct 2015. And Regulations 2015 which consists NSL was published on 25th Oct  , 

Dear sir still you dare to state that there was no council when NSL was passed while you attended 5 th Oct meeting of IAC which took place just before publishing the regulation 2015 that is on 25 th Oct 2015  , really telling such type of blant lie requires lot of gutts which I think you  possess .

Regarding amendment regulation 2017 which your team claims to resolve the issue of Educational qualification criteria imposed by regulation 2015 (clause 27 transitory provision ) by showing categorization letter of 2001 BUT then Why, When applied for additional deptt member who doesn't fullfil criteria of 2015 are being rejected by regulator and they are thousands in nos. and exempted from that criteria What is your answer to those members? 

and still you people instead of resolving members problems utilizing all your energy for creating hurdles continuously Who are taking honest  efforts to resolve this and spreading panic & fear among  members by starting such "Sky has fallen"" like mail chains .

Regards

Er Rahul  Jadhav

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020, 18:07 'ashok kumar' via Insurance surveyors, <insurance...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dear Sharma jee,

Namaskar 

I would to add few facts about Regulation 2015.

1. NSL was passed in IAC committee in February 2015 when there was no elected council and / or representation of the council. Every one alleging including few council members without having any Minutes of meeting of IAC. If they have guts then produce the proves. I don't like to reply on I'll motivated matter. 

2. Regulation 2015 was protested thereafter on all platform including IAC by IIISLA and ultimately a joint meeting was arranged in arbitratorship of Ministry and relaxation on qualification and NSL was Amendment as Regulation 2017 ( amendment) for which a cash was filed in Aurangabad H'court without having any knowledge of the amendment in Regulation 2015. 

3. Yes, I left the council due to confusion within council as created by IT person Mr.Shiva and without having the IT based Infrastructure and ONOP it was difficult for me to continue as President further hence I send a letter to all council members that I am not interest to continue as the President and will support the council from outside and from that day to till today I am committed for the IIISLA, though present council did not taken a notice on my proposals but then too my commitment for our lovely institute still continues as many members having like you. 

4. No any council members forced me to resign or left the council and it was my own decision. 

5. As far decision of court case on Regulation 2020 is concern, my personal opinion was that a joint meeting with the ministry must be conducted before filing the case bcz in any condition IIISLA cannot get relaxation and empowerment with support of Ministry and neglecting attitude of MOF will harm the image of IIISLA.

I don't like to make any comment on the final decision because it has been politicalised by all interested party . 

Sir, 

Please concentrate on basic need of the members which has been affected badly by EOI/LAA contracts. Hon'ble President has assured that council will take action against them after 14th August but nothing happened other than violation of AoA/ RPCEC and misappropriation of fund to insure themselves by taking Directors indemnity policy from IIISLA fund or PA policy through agent and misuse of legal expenses with out concent of council for their own purposes. 

I know you are one who always think for the betterment of IIISLA but keep open your eyes as a critic in positive sense whatever who are in the council or not. 

Positive criticism will be always appreciated by everyone. I am not criticising any one, just advising for good health of IIISLA in view of Law, Regulations, MoA/AoA and RPCEC of IIISLA. 

With regards 

Ashok Kumar 

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On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 16:5Dear 1, J.K Sharma - Surveyor

<dadashre...@gmail.com> wrote:

Respected All:

The elected body of III SLA was on its move without caring the criticism by the previous and rejected members, rather the majority of members never listen to them but a selected egoist group who could not digest the rejection pain and want to be in the limelight for their future in III SLA, regularly finding the gap to make the members irritate. 

The efforts of III SLA team show the results, their dedication, vision and ability. They are getting the appreciation from the members but even then some of them are interpreting the achieved success as a failure of the law. Surprisingly, their motto is to only criticize the elected team. We know that these fellows will drag us again in worst situations sourly. Even at the last step the appeal to send the irritating mail, to the parliamentarian without any gain only to misguide the members and III SLA was discarded. The same thing was done at Janter Manter orgy of the profession. What more remains to see?

The members were stunned by a message on the board that the sky is going to fall especially on us and keep our self ready awake, in wait of an emergency call keeping the mobile, laptop or computer ready to counter the falling sky. But nothing happened. IIISLA already challenged regulation 2020 in the court which has given a fair verdict/guideline seems in favour of us.

Here we must appreciate the elected team for a strong, planed, wishful and timely decision and challenged prematurely in advance and could get the result in our favour. If the same action would have been taken in 2015 and such decision delivered in our favour, the profession may have been in a better condition. I remember when Mr Ashok Kumar tried his best to challenge it but the so-called well-wishers who are trained conspirators and manipulator became the master and removed Sh. Ashok Kumar from the post of president III SLA. They were dancing on the tunes of IRDA and we suffered the ignorance till 2019. The regulation of 2015 was not challenged even then the demand of some senior members. The ignorance and sycophancy were at such a high level that we suffered the mismanagement, dictatorship and loot of III SLA money. Even now some court cases have been initiated to ruin the profession and blame the iiisla. The members should ask them, why they are ruining us, what more they want. They should not play with the sentiments of the members. We are the members of a professional body, know the good and bad of us and can not be misguided easily. we are able, if the sky will fall don't be the master of us. 

We must appreciate the timely action of an elected body and hope that they will keep it continue for our better future. The members are wisely supporting you but you also must prove yourself until the last of your term.

,With Regard's

dadashree.Sharma

Karnal (HR) -132001

9354108188

Email:- dadashree.sharma @gmail.com

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[rahul jadhav]

Dear  Friends ,

Regarding Aurangabad high court case I have updated all members through Google groups time to time and members are well aware of it ,what was going on in the matter at honorable Aurangabad high court case regarding regulation 2015 and transitively provision clause number 27 of qualification criteria, a group is always interested in spreading half cooked stories for that sake I am herewith attaching both affidavits submitted in the honorable high court by IRDA that too after 2017 amendments that is in the year 2018 [ Regarding amendment regulation 2017 which your team claims to resolve the issue of Educational qualification criteria imposed by regulation 2015 (clause 27 transitory provision ) by showing categorization letter of 2001 BUT currently after removal of restriction of department When applied for additional deptt member who doesn't fulfill criteria of 2015 are being rejected by regulator and they are thousands in nos. and not  exempted from that criteria ?  ]]    which are self explanatory and confirms that the profession of many  was saved by Aurangabad high court case only and many of electrical ,civil electronics that is other than mechanical /automobile diploma or degree holders could retain their motor department.

And The question of IIISLA paying money in this case is to be  asked to the then Residual CC .

Please go through the attachments and comment.

Regards

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM TILAK RAJ VERMA <verma.ass...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Rahul Sir

Good Morning to all friends

You have filed a case at Hon'ble Aurangabad High Court against Regulations 2015. 

Before it's decesion, IRDA Regulations 2017 Amendment came in force and almost Members get relief from qualification criteria.

But why you wrongly interpreted and motivated the Council at that time to spare and waste an amount of app. Rs4000000/- which was hard earned money of our members.

When qualifications criteria was clear from regulations 2017 amendment what was need to waste forty lakhs of IIISLA Members.

As it was known that you were the intermediate between petitioners and IIISLA Council. Also all members are surprised to know that opposite party Advocate was paid Rs.1000000/- per hearing by IIISLA. And app. Total Rs4000000/- was looted from IIISLA account.

Also please inform us, what we Common Members get from Aurangabad High court decesion. Please place copy of order of Hon'ble High Court for knowledge of IIISLA MEMBERS.

Please be informed that You were also Central Council Member in 2015 when IRDA Regulations 2015 implemented.

I request all CC members to investigate the matter and recover the amount from respective personal.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 22:40 'Udayana Vora' via Indian Independent Insurance Surveyor And Loss Assessors Bengal <iiisla...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Petion was filed to irda for revealation on data /minit of IAC and receipt of  objection on record called before regulation 2016. Obviously irda has not cared to reply on this except grievence stand closed  

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