Re: [FTI] Re: Indore-findings

[Sanjeev Sabhlok]

Thanks,  Ram

That's a very good idea. This needs to be discussed on the IPI group (copy above) where the Adharshila concept is being discussed. I'm waiting for more comments from members on the foundational idea of Adharshila - the draft document I circulated (2nd version). I'll revert to this after a few others have commented on it.

Regards
Sanjeev

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Ram Kumar <rka...@gmail.com> wrote:

dear sanjeev,

Agreeing your thoughts.one idea comes to my mind for setting up one
adharshila leadership institute at national level for development of
leaders as t n sheshan has tried an effort then have similar centres
in each state or on a specific population size.

Some people have really benefitted out of that effort & i am aware
about some politicians hiring young people from such institutes.

This model itself can be sustainable if run by credible people with
only      2-3 people fulltime & rest faculties coming part time from
across the globe.

One such effort is being run in japan & it has produced remarkable results.

We can begin with an online virtual course to scale it in physical
format with a national centre for leadership.

Best regards

On 7/29/09, Sanjeev Sabhlok <sab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Ajay
>
> I'll upload Shantanu's Penn profile (I suggest we simply call it biodata -
> as it was called in our times!) on FTI's google group for future reference.
> Thanks for that.
>
> Re: Indore fund raising. The original thought was the at least some funds
> would be raised to reduce the overall cost of the Indore outreach. I guess
> what you are suggesting is that the effort was not credible in some way or
> people don't trust us for some reason. Indeed, that is why I did all the
> rush to register FTI before the outreach, so we have a legal entity. But
> that obviously was not enough. And there was sufficient news coverage, but
> according to you even that was not enough. Well, then some follow up is
> needed. The next step might be for the Indore team to continue to reach out
> to the local groups. Ultimately it is up to each FTI leader to build
> credibility locally, although being part of a bigger group is vital. Please
> don't stop the fund raising idea. Once the bank account is opened, pl.
> consider networking with the people who have heard about FTI and getting
> them to contribute some funds.
>
> In addition, I believe that we need an internet (credit card based) portal
> to receive money. We need to make things really simple for people to pay
> small amounts without their doing any major things like logging into their
> bank accounts or writing cheques. That is something the Finance committee
> will perhaps consider - even if it may have high start up costs.
>
> Re: meeting young people, I have no problem with people meeting the young
> generally. But I'm only suggesting we don't meet the young as part of an
> outreach effort which must focus on the search for leaders. We are not
> searching for voters at this stage, just leaders. Indeed, Adharshila would
> be perfect for contacting the young, and that should be hopefully launched
> in the next six months. The young can be future Freedom partners of FTI but
> can't be members since they haven't even completed their education, leave
> alone gained work experience.
>
> Re: 2014 or 2019 - the matter is simple. All efforts so far have yielded
> very few applicants. Over two thirds of applicants are non-serious and don't
> respond when asked a couple of simple questions - so they are not accepted.
> Plus, most members who join remain totally dormant (there are at leat 30-40
> on this group who have not said one word!). I'm a realist - and have been at
> this for 11 1/2 years now. For some reason India is gifted with a HUGE
> population, but very few leaders.
>
> If you wish, we can still talk of 2014 on FTI documents, but let's be aware
> that very soon (in six months at most), if huge momentum doesn't build up
> and take us beyond 500 active (not dormant!) members, then 2014 will become
> very hard if not impossible to achieve (in terms of forming government). An
> unbelievable amount of work lies ahead if we are to succeed. And that is
> after we get 1500 active members. So 2019 is far more realistic. But you
> never know; we could get lucky and things could pick up suddenly!
>
> Regards
> Sanjeev
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Ajay <ajaya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Sanjeev,
>>
>> - "Why Indore effort failed to why the Indore effort did not raise a
>> single
>> rupee/ commitment to donate a single rupee"
>> I do not think it is true that it did not raise a single rupee commitment
>> to donate a single rupee - we met people who would be willing to do so. It
>> is first and foremost our responsibility to prove to them -
>> a. We are credible.
>> b. We are here to stay and not run away with their money
>> c. We have to be in news in the local media on a continuous basis. The
>> Indore outreach effort is not the only effort that has to be done, It has
>> to
>> be followed up by similar small efforts on a monthly basis and then on a
>> weekly basis as per convenience. We have to leave a stamp in the minds of
>> the people that we will bring the change that they expect.
>>
>> - We should not meet school / college children - I do not agree with this
>> too. I think it is really worth meeting impressionable school and college
>> children - because
>> a. they are the ones who will be voting for us in the times to come.
>> b. they will discuss the same issues at their homes - amongst their
>> families and friends, and, maybe even bring in members of their families
>> to
>> the web-site - by virtue of their being internet savvy.
>>
>> - Showcase - It means a well defined strategy with a proper time line and
>> alternatives - showcasing what if alternative 1 fails, etc. We have to be
>> committed to achieve our goals by 2014 and hence create a strategy to
>> according to the same. The moment we start talking about 2019 - it starts
>> looking rather unreal and too futuristic.
>>
>> - Attached is a document - with a brief profile of Shantanu (I guess this
>> is called a Penn Profile).
>>
>> Thank you
>> Ajay.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Sanjeev Sabhlok <sab...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Rahul.
>>>
>>> 1) Could we please have a Penn profile of someone that can be used as a
>>> template and load it on FTI google group?  (btw, why is called a Penn
>>> profile (is it short form for something?))
>>>
>>> 2) Re: young people - anyone below 25 is hardly worth talking to as far
>>> as
>>> FTI leadership is concerned. A waste of really precious time. It is good
>>> for
>>> such people to read out material, but for us to physically approach them
>>> for
>>> getting FTI leaders is a terrible waste of time! I think we ought to make
>>> note in the spreadsheet that outreach effort should avoid meeting school
>>> and
>>> college children. As far as Adharshila is concerned, that group (16-25)
>>> is
>>> perfect.
>>>
>>> 3) Still not clear on 'showcase'. What does it look like? Can we get an
>>> example please?
>>>
>>> 4) Fund raising: Clearly there are people willing to contribute today
>>> whom
>>> we have turned away because we don't know how to receive money. Let's
>>> establish that first and see what happens. Based on that we can talk of
>>> fund
>>> raising strategy - this is a separate task not just related to the Indore
>>> effort. What is worth noting is why the Indore effort did not raise a
>>> single
>>> rupee/ commitment to donate a single rupee.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Sanjeev
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Rahul Pandit
>>> <rahul...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sanjeev,
>>>>
>>>> Clarifications for posted items on Sheet:
>>>>
>>>> 1) What is a Penn profile?
>>>> *A brief profile, typically a para or two with a color picture appended.
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> 2) Why do we need to meet young audience?
>>>> *We found them more enthusiastic and encouraging. This is to set the day
>>>> ahead in good mood for the out-reach panel.*
>>>>
>>>> 3) We need to showcase a strategy for success. What does this mean?
>>>> *We need to showcase, what gurantees our victory.*
>>>>
>>>> 4) We will need to have a very clear and credible strategy on
>>>> fund-raising so that potential supporters can believe that they are
>>>> backing
>>>> a credible and “likely-to-win” team (this perception is very important).
>>>>
>>>> *Sanjeev: We can do so after we have capacity to receive money.*
>>>> *Rahul: Please explain what capacity to recieve money means. Does this
>>>> indicate merely having a bank account? Fund raising does need exclusive
>>>> attention to drive multiple campaigns. We will need creativity ideas to
>>>> raise funds actively.*
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rahul.
>>>>
>>>>   On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Ajay <ajaya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Now working!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:00 PM, <sab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've shared a document with you:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indore-findings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Av7d_IXSFbendFAyRHA1Y0Zhem9ydzNIZTlHYmVlUVE&hl=en&invite=COjI-b7O7_HtfA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> document, just click the link above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> test
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards and Best Wishes
>>>>> Ajay Anand
>>>>> Freedom Team of India
>>>>> Towards a Great India - A Free India
>>>>> www.freedomteam.in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> sanjeev sabhlok
>>> Skypeid: sanjeevsabhlok
>>> http://sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards and Best Wishes
>>> Ajay Anand
>>> Freedom Team of India
>>> Towards a Great India - A Free India
>>> www.freedomteam.in
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>
>>>
>
>
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> sanjeev sabhlok
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> http://sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/
>
> >
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