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C F Majors

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Nov 16, 2011, 8:28:16 PM11/16/11
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IS there a method to convert page numerals to spelled out numbers.
Using the master page settings, it looks like NO. But maybe there is a
way beyond that. Maybe?

Thank you kindly,

Carol


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Michael Brady

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Nov 16, 2011, 8:31:43 PM11/16/11
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Carol:

> IS there a method to convert page numerals to spelled out numbers.


You mean, page 2 to page two?


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Roy McCoy

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Nov 16, 2011, 8:33:15 PM11/16/11
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I'm sure there's a way, but likely not with auto page numbers.

Roy

C F Majors

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Nov 16, 2011, 8:39:31 PM11/16/11
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yes.

I was wondering why the last designer used separate little page number
windows for each page....

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Dick Margulis

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Nov 16, 2011, 8:42:04 PM11/16/11
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On 11/16/2011 8:28 PM, C F Majors wrote:
> IS there a method to convert page numerals to spelled out numbers.
> Using the master page settings, it looks like NO. But maybe there is a
> way beyond that. Maybe?
>

If this is a piece longer than 16 pages, that's a Really Bad Idea,
because it's asking for bindery errors. It's also not terribly
reader-friendly.

That said, I'm sure it can be scripted. However, I don't think it can be
made automatic unless the script can access the list of numbering styles
in the page numbering dialog box and add your custom style to it.

C F Majors

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Nov 16, 2011, 8:50:26 PM11/16/11
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Its not my favorite idea either. but this is the way she likes it.
twenty-four to twenty-eight pages.

I could bring them to the page level to modify them. (After spending
time wondering why the previous designer had put them on each page,
and separate from the rest of the running-footer.)

This is the darnedest page file I have ever seen. Looks like paste-up
from a by-gone era. Unthreaded line-at-a-time things. Hope I can smart
this thing up.

Was looking in GREP for the numerals to words conversion. Faster just
to set up the pages by hand, I reckon.

Thanks!
Carol

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Michael Brady

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Nov 16, 2011, 8:56:38 PM11/16/11
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On Nov 16, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Dick Margulis wrote:

> If this is a piece longer than 16 pages, that's a Really Bad Idea, because it's asking for bindery errors.

Yes, and if it's, say, four hundred and seventy-two pages, you're asking for space problems!

C F Majors

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Nov 16, 2011, 9:12:57 PM11/16/11
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feel my pain ... screen shot of legacy newsletter files that I am
trying to tame. New client.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Michael Brady
<mich...@michaelbradydesign.com> wrote:
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> On Nov 16, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Dick Margulis wrote:
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>> If this is a piece longer than 16 pages, that's a Really Bad Idea, because it's asking for bindery errors.
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> Yes, and if it's, say, four hundred and seventy-two pages, you're asking for space problems!

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Dick Margulis

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Nov 16, 2011, 9:21:39 PM11/16/11
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On 11/16/2011 9:12 PM, C F Majors wrote:
> feel my pain ... screen shot of legacy newsletter files that I am
> trying to tame. New client.
>

Shouldn't that be SCREAM! shot?

Pain felt. Bask in empathy.

Sharon Villines

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Nov 16, 2011, 10:06:10 PM11/16/11
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On 16 Nov 2011, at 9:12 PM, C F Majors wrote:

> feel my pain ... screen shot of legacy newsletter files that I am
> trying to tame. New client.

I know you guys do all sorts of fancy scripts to automate everything and I'm not a professional InDesign person doing this all day long, but what I would so with this is just put on an old movie or 200 episodes of Law & Order, put a case of Diet Coke on ice, and sort through the pages one at a time to set them up right.

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C F Majors

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Nov 16, 2011, 10:07:35 PM11/16/11
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you are too kind! now I am finding mixed serif typefaces in the same
style sheets.

into the deep end I go. ...

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C F Majors

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Nov 16, 2011, 10:08:28 PM11/16/11
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Sharon, I am there!

Michael Brady

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Nov 16, 2011, 10:17:01 PM11/16/11
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On Nov 16, 2011, at 9:12 PM, C F Majors wrote:

> feel my pain ... screen shot of legacy newsletter files that I am
> trying to tame

Call on me! I know this one! It's a Word layout masquerading as an ID layout!

C F Majors

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Nov 16, 2011, 10:22:33 PM11/16/11
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Nope. Its an Indesign Document masquerading as a word layout.

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Evans, Rebecca

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Nov 17, 2011, 8:47:42 AM11/17/11
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For the spelled out page numbers, if this is a newsletter you will produce
regularly, I would type up a text file of page numbers, each on a new
line, and a paragraph style for them set to begin in the next frame. I'd
put empty linked text frames on the master pages to hold the page number
text, and I'd place the text file into that frame on the first InDesign
page and auto-flow it to the end of the document.

If there are pages that don't use a page number, you could drag that frame
onto the pasteboard or use the SplitStory script.

* * *

Your screen capture reminds me of a 400-page programming book with 800
screen captures back in Quark 4.1.1 days that I was asked to do cx rounds
on. Quark 4.1.1 was perfectly capable of anchoring objects but every
single image was floating on the page and all the text was in individual
text boxes, also floating on the page.

Even worse, back in Ventura 1.0 days, an author created his own Ventura
file with--I kid you not--every single line in a separate text frame.

Rebecca

Michael Brady

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Nov 17, 2011, 9:33:23 AM11/17/11
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On Nov 16, 2011, at 8:39 PM, C F Majors wrote:

> I was wondering why the last designer used separate little page number
> windows for each page....

If the author/publisher/your client has any need for a ToC, index, or other way of pointing to pages, converting the numbers to words will that impossible (and any kind of index will be uggggggly).

Roy McCoy

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Nov 17, 2011, 9:36:56 AM11/17/11
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Michael B. wrote:

> If the author/publisher/your client has any need for a ToC, index, or other way of pointing to pages, converting the numbers to words will that impossible (and any kind of index will be uggggggly).

Not necessarily. The original numbers can be left in an invisible copy and these can be used for a TOC and/or index.


Roy

C F Majors

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Nov 17, 2011, 12:12:23 PM11/17/11
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No TOC here.

I do have a little gizmo that I use for spell and grammar checking that is going to spell out my numbers for me. I copied and pasted the page number window onto each page over the auto numbering setup on the master page. I made the background of the top-page window white, to cover the number numbers when I spell out the numerals.

the least of my problems, as it turns out. hope I can solve them methodically one by one.

thanks yall.
Carol

C F Majors

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Nov 17, 2011, 6:11:52 PM11/17/11
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Just found this one. That is a great idea Rebecca. Hadn't thought of that workaround.

Back to the pit. Thank you!

Michael Collie

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Nov 17, 2011, 6:45:59 PM11/17/11
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This would be a useful Numbering Style option.

I have just published a book with sixty-five chapters (some as short
as four pages). The chapters are numbered numerically in the table of
contents but with words (spelled out) at the beginning of each
chapter. This allowed me to eliminate the word 'chapter' without
having to embellish, decorate or make a feature of a lone numeral.

Googling 'spelled numbers from one to one hundred' will yield a table
with 'one' to 'thirty-one' spelled out.

After manually typing or copying 'one' to 'nineteen' I was able to
Find 'Chapter 2' and Replace it with 'Twenty-' then Replace '1' with
'one', etc.

Cheers, Michael


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> IS there a method to convert page numerals to spelled out numbers.
> Using the master page settings, it looks like NO. But maybe there is a
> way beyond that. Maybe?
>

> Thank you kindly,
>
> Carol

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