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Charlie Hohn
Nov 15, 2015, 5:20:40 PM11/15/15
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I noticed the GBIF points aren't an option on the species maps anymore. I am not sure if this is a bug or intentional and if it's permanent or not but I for one really like that option and hope it comes back.
Ken-ichi
Nov 15, 2015, 6:01:00 PM11/15/15
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I wish I didn't have to keep saying this, but please provide a URL
that shows what you're talking about. We have lots of maps on the
site, and they don't all have the same options. Some taxa will not
have the option to show GBIF points because that name either isn't in
GBIF or iNat hasn't yet looked up the GBIF ID corresponding to that
taxon, but I can't tell exactly what's going wrong without a URL. For
example, it looks perfectly fine to me on
http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/250284-Compsocryptus
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that shows what you're talking about. We have lots of maps on the
site, and they don't all have the same options. Some taxa will not
have the option to show GBIF points because that name either isn't in
GBIF or iNat hasn't yet looked up the GBIF ID corresponding to that
taxon, but I can't tell exactly what's going wrong without a URL. For
example, it looks perfectly fine to me on
http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/250284-Compsocryptus
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Charlie Hohn
Nov 15, 2015, 7:32:25 PM11/15/15
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I don't know how to provide a URL for the species range maps that occur on every observation plus every species page. Choose literally any observation that is properly tagged with a taxa. Here's one: http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/2384510
It seems to be working again now though, so maybe just a blip.
Ken-ichi
Nov 15, 2015, 9:53:28 PM11/15/15
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Just because it always bears re-iteration for anyone still reading,
when I ask for a URL, I don't mean a URL for the phenomenon as a
whole, I just mean a URL for *any* page showing the phenomenon you're
describing. If that seems too obvious to include, please understand
that it isn't. The best bug reports for a website include a URL that
shows an example of what you're talking about, a screenshot showing
what *you're* seeing, since that will vary from setup to setup, and
any details that aren't obvious from those forms of evidence, like the
actions it takes to reproduce the conditions you're experiencing,
details about browser, operating system, etc.
The reason URLs are so important is that saying "the species page"
could mean a lot of different things to different people. There are
species depicted on almost every page of the site, including
http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/2384510,
http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/79240-Stipa-miliacea,
http://www.inaturalist.org/listed_taxa/6493387,
http://www.inaturalist.org/check_lists/3087-Carbon-Canyon-Regional-Park-Check-List,
and http://www.inaturalist.org/places/carbon-canyon-regional-park, to
point out a few examples.
In this case, it would have helped if you provided URLs like
http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/2384510 and
http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/79240-Stipa-miliacea with screenshots
of each showing the absence of the GBIF option in the map legend, so I
could see *exactly* what parts of the site you were talking about,
since inevitably what happens is that someone says something is wrong,
I try to guess what the heck they're talking about, and go somewhere
completely different on the site and see no problems, and the problem
doesn't get fixed.
I'm mostly just venting here, since this problem is basically as old
as software engineering, if not engineering itself.
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html summarizes the
problem well, and it was written back in the bronze age of 1999.
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Charlie Hohn
when I ask for a URL, I don't mean a URL for the phenomenon as a
whole, I just mean a URL for *any* page showing the phenomenon you're
describing. If that seems too obvious to include, please understand
that it isn't. The best bug reports for a website include a URL that
shows an example of what you're talking about, a screenshot showing
what *you're* seeing, since that will vary from setup to setup, and
any details that aren't obvious from those forms of evidence, like the
actions it takes to reproduce the conditions you're experiencing,
details about browser, operating system, etc.
The reason URLs are so important is that saying "the species page"
could mean a lot of different things to different people. There are
species depicted on almost every page of the site, including
http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/2384510,
http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/79240-Stipa-miliacea,
http://www.inaturalist.org/listed_taxa/6493387,
http://www.inaturalist.org/check_lists/3087-Carbon-Canyon-Regional-Park-Check-List,
and http://www.inaturalist.org/places/carbon-canyon-regional-park, to
point out a few examples.
In this case, it would have helped if you provided URLs like
http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/2384510 and
http://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/79240-Stipa-miliacea with screenshots
of each showing the absence of the GBIF option in the map legend, so I
could see *exactly* what parts of the site you were talking about,
since inevitably what happens is that someone says something is wrong,
I try to guess what the heck they're talking about, and go somewhere
completely different on the site and see no problems, and the problem
doesn't get fixed.
I'm mostly just venting here, since this problem is basically as old
as software engineering, if not engineering itself.
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html summarizes the
problem well, and it was written back in the bronze age of 1999.
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Charlie Hohn
Charlie Hohn
Nov 15, 2015, 10:30:59 PM11/15/15
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Well, I thought what I meant was obvious, it seemed obvious in my head, but clearly it wasn't. Anyhow I said species MAP not species page, not that it matters.
Is there an easy way to get screenshots into Google Group? Do you have a program to recommend for taking screenshots? Right now on my home computer it's a pain in the butt so it will just mean I don't report as many bugs if I need to use a screenshot every single time. But maybe I report too many bugs anyway.
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Charlie Hohn
Montpelier, Vermont
Charlie Hohn
Montpelier, Vermont
Ken-ichi
Nov 15, 2015, 11:18:48 PM11/15/15
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In theory you should be able to mail attachments to the Google Group
like you can with other email (I've tried to attach one to this
email). If that doesn't work, http://imgur.com, Dropbox, or any other
image-sharing service would do. That might be less of a burden on
people's inboxes too, but you could always email shots to
he...@inaturalist.org.
http://www.take-a-screenshot.org covers most ways to take screenshots
on most operating systems. I use a Mac so I usually use CMD-SHIFT-4
and either select a region or hit SPACE to screenshot a window.
And you don't *have* to take a screenshot, but it does help.
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Charlie Hohn
like you can with other email (I've tried to attach one to this
email). If that doesn't work, http://imgur.com, Dropbox, or any other
image-sharing service would do. That might be less of a burden on
people's inboxes too, but you could always email shots to
he...@inaturalist.org.
http://www.take-a-screenshot.org covers most ways to take screenshots
on most operating systems. I use a Mac so I usually use CMD-SHIFT-4
and either select a region or hit SPACE to screenshot a window.
And you don't *have* to take a screenshot, but it does help.
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Charlie Hohn
Charlie Hohn
Nov 16, 2015, 8:16:22 AM11/16/15
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whoa, I just realized I have Snipping Tool on this computer. I had No Idea! That one is really useful because you can crop and copy so it isn't everything on my whole desktop.
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