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Smileypuffin

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Apr 8, 2018, 9:36:45 PM4/8/18
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Hello
I would like to know if we actually have access to national status by species and obviously by country (national red lists) when they exist. It could be a more accurate scale to define the biological status than it is depicted in the IUCN list. And if not can we work on implementation of these lists in the future (including translation of these lists).
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Chris Cheatle

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Apr 8, 2018, 10:48:43 PM4/8/18
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by "actually have access". Conservation ranks for a species can be added at any level of geography. Here is an example species where they exist at the global, national and province/state level (just look on the Status tab) : https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/4798-Charadrius-melodus

I don't know what you mean by translation of the lists, you'll need to clarify that.

Smileypuffin

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Apr 8, 2018, 10:55:56 PM4/8/18
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Thank you I will try to explain my thoughts with my poor English sorry for that.
In some European countries I used to work on regional/departmental lists made by the scientific community and granted by the authorities.
Here in Japan they have edited their own red lists but in Japanese and they need to be translated at least in English to be understood by everyone...
I hope you will understand my demand.
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Charlie Hohn

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Apr 9, 2018, 7:35:37 AM4/9/18
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well, i would assume in Japan that Japanese would be the logical language to have them in, right? :)

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Chris Cheatle

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Apr 9, 2018, 8:06:02 AM4/9/18
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I am not sure if there is a way to automatically import a list of conservation ranks to the database. Either one of the developers or someone with more knowledge can confirm. Hopefully the lists in Japanese or another language contain the scientific name as that would be the most logical way to link the data.

If there is no automated load process available, then I believe you would need to find individuals with curator status willing to enter the data manually as it involves editing the taxa record which I believe is restricted to curators only.

Smileypuffin

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Apr 9, 2018, 9:30:23 AM4/9/18
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Haha I agree but do you know how to say endangered species in Kanagawa or protected only in Hakone prefecture if you see it in Japanese? For me it's ok but it could be nice that anyone on this website could understand the local status of a species across English language...
Just my 100 yen thoughts.

Smileypuffin

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Apr 9, 2018, 9:31:36 AM4/9/18
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Ok I understand. Thank you for clarifying my idea.
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Charlie Hohn

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Apr 9, 2018, 9:43:10 AM4/9/18
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I guess my point is that iNat is meant to be international so it isn't necessary to convert things to English. If people in Japan are using the site we wouldn't want to make it only in English, though I don't know Japanese so I can't help


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Ok I understand. Thank you for clarifying my idea.
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Chris Cheatle

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Apr 9, 2018, 9:48:16 AM4/9/18
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Actually, without getting too technical, so long as the phrase has a translation done, if a user runs the website in their language, they will see the text in that language. On the website at the bottom right is a drop-down where you can choose a language to use.

Attached is a screen capture showing a page in Danish. Note some of the status ranks are in Danish (if you dont read Danish, trust me, they are Danish). Some which dont have a completed translation show in English.

The actual data would likely get entered into the database in English terms, so everyone who reads English could understand and read it no problems. So "Critically Endangered" would be the actual data saved, and then assuming "Critically Endangered" has a translation into say Japanese, a user who used the website in Japanese would see that Japanese text.

Smileypuffin

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Apr 9, 2018, 9:54:18 AM4/9/18
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Well my first point was actually pointing the very existence of red lists at different levels of geographic scales like a department (which is really a tiny unit in some countries). So my question was : for these local red lists that are not matching the (way too general) status given by the IUCN list , is that possible to display them or add them (and if necessary be translated by some natives)...

Smileypuffin

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Apr 9, 2018, 9:56:59 AM4/9/18
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According to your Danish example it seems that yes someone with agreements can insert these local status to the website.
Thank you for your reply.

Chris Cheatle

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Apr 10, 2018, 8:36:38 AM4/10/18
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To summarize:
  1. The functionality you ask about is already available in iNaturalist
  2. Someone who knows for sure (I don't) needs to confirm if there is an automated way the data can be loaded
  3. If the answer to #2 is no, you need to find a curator willing to do the data entry manually

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