Titchmarsh marina, UK

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Apr 20, 2022, 5:20:40 AM4/20/22
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That’s the one!  Only taken visitors’ moorings there previously so we’ll be seeing how an annual berth works out.  It’s a nice location and convenient for Harwich and the rivers Stour and Orwell as well as the Deben.  Weather permitting we’ll be sailing there on Friday.

Bob Illingworth

Nonsuch Luck 30U #367 (GBR1262T)

Moored Ispwich but moving to Titchmarsh on the Walton Backwaters, Essex, UK; cruising the rivers of East Anglia, and, the North Sea.

 

 

From: ina-nonsuch-di...@googlegroups.com <ina-nonsuch-di...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mark Powers La Reina 26C Vancouver, B.C.
Sent: 20 April 2022 01:11
To: INA Nonsuch Discussion Group <INA-Nonsuch-Di...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Diesel lift pump

 

Titchmarsh Marina, just off the Twizzle? Seems a long way from Yorkshire. Looks like a nice Marina.

 

Mark Powers

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 8:03:07 AM UTC-7 Bob Illingworth wrote:

Thanks for all your help and advice about the diesel lift pump on Nonsuch Luck.  Being a stingy Yorkshireman I was determined not to have to spend a lot of money on a new pump.  I went over the electrics very carefully and found a loose connection behind the instrument panel.  Problem solved without any expenditure.

Smiling face with no fill

 

Bob Illingworth

Nonsuch Luck 30U #367 (GBR1262T)

Moored Ispwich but moving to Titchmarsh on the Walton Backwaters, Essex, UK; cruising the rivers of East Anglia, and, the North Sea.

 

 

 

From: ina-nonsuch-di...@googlegroups.com <ina-nonsuch-di...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tom Schoenhofer 26C#28 North Star Penetanguishene
Sent: 16 April 2022 05:33
To: INA Nonsuch Discussion Group <INA-Nonsuch-Di...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Diesel lift pump

 

Ron

Part #301385 from Universal $246.80 - each USD

Torrensen also says a Facet 476459N same pump but cheaper

Facet Cylindrical 12v Fuel Pump, 1/8 NPT, 6-8 psi

$117 USD + ship+tax

 

I couldn't find an auto parts store that sold the Facet 476459N in Canada.

 

A Facet pump is $180 CAD from Princess auto(unknown Facet part#)

It looks the same as the one in Peter's photo above , it would probably work. 

 

These "new" pumps are electronic in that they don't have points like the original ones installed in our boats. I am not sure if this is a good or bad thing, the electronic pumps may be more sensitive to lightning.

 

Tom

26C#28 North Star

Penetang

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Friday, 8 April 2022 at 13:44:03 UTC-4 thor....@gmail.com wrote:

The pumps are made by Facet.  If there is no clicking it is toast. 


 

 

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 7:07:06 AM UTC-7 doncr...@gmail.com wrote:

There is also a fuel filter on the engine, just after the fuel lift pump. You checked the Racor, etc, but didn't mention checking that filter too. It is easy to see in the photo posted earlier by Peter Grabow, it's in the small metal cylinder just to the right of the new lift pump.

Don

 

On Fri., Apr. 8, 2022, 6:35 a.m. Barry Connell, <envir...@gmail.com> wrote:

I strongly recommend cutting a 6” porthole into the tank which can be closed tight , but which allows for a thorough cleaning of the tank. 

I’ve installed such ports in my N36, and in my previous boat (Wylie 34), and found the port to be very helpful.

 

barryConnell

Nocturne N36

 

On Apr 7, 2022, at 6:27 PM, <doncr...@gmail.com> <doncr...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

My NS30U with Westerbeke 31HP engine, came with a separate lift pump mounted on bulkhead next to engine, installed by PO. I assume it replaced the non-working one attached to engine. It’s a Walbro FRB-13, 12v, 7 psi, costs about US$160. According to spec’s it has a 18,000 hr life, should be good for many years.

Don

 

From: ina-nonsuch-di...@googlegroups.com <ina-nonsuch-di...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Ken Dakin
Sent: April 7, 2022 3:00 PM
To: INA-Nonsuch-Di...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Diesel lift pump

 

Another possible source of the problem may be a clogged filter in the lift pump itself.

These pumps can be opened to clean or replace the filter but I consider having a replacement gasket on hand before opening, assuming it has a gasket. My pump is not OEM and is installed so the opening is on the bottom which requires the pump to be detached at the hoses and inverted on a work bench to clean out the filter.

 

Ken Dakin

Sashay NS 33 #7

Kingston ON

Sent from my iPad

 

On Apr 7, 2022, at 5:49 PM, Bob Gehrman <b...@gehrman.net> wrote:



I had sludge in my fuel tank as well. I got a siphon hose and attached it to a wooden dowel so I could reach the corner of the tank after opening the fuel gauge port on the top of the tank. Pointing it at the bottom, forward corner where the fuel hose comes out I was able to suck out some nasty sludge. 

 

I ended up draining the fuel tank, cleaning it as best as possible, and then refilling with fresh fuel. 

 

Worth checking into that before buying a new fuel lift pump.

 

Bob Gehrman

NS30U #396 "Quickbeam"

Baltimore, Maryland

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On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 5:21 PM alsteward via INA Nonsuch Discussion Group <INA-Nonsuch-Di...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi Bob, 

 

I had a similar problem on MagnifiCat, turned out to be several odd years of accumulated sludge in the fuel tank clogging the up take.  As an Old Lutonian, I know a lot about accumulated sludge !  Pop in to Bury St. Eds. cemetery and put a few flowers on the family plot for me please, I'll pay back at the next reunion. .   

 

Regards,

 

Alan Steward

30C 144 MagnifiCat

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From: Robert Illingworth <bobby.il...@gmail.com>
To: INA Discussion Group <ina-nonsuch-di...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 7, 2022 3:58 pm
Subject: Diesel lift pump

Nonsuch Luck's diesel lift pump seems to have died. The symptoms are the engine (W27A) starts normally and after a few second dies away slowly. Also I've changed the Racor filter on the bulkhead in the port lazarette and when the ignition switch is on the bowl doesn't refill with diesel. 

It'll come as no surprise to any of you that Westerbeke want over $700 for a new pump. Has anyone had experience of a generic lift pump and what the specification of such a pump needs to be?

There are plenty of 'solid state' pumps on the Internet costing less than a hundred bucks. 

Bob Illingworth 

Nonsuch Luck 30U

Temporarily in Ipswich, UK; cruising the coast and rivers of Essex and Suffolk. 

 

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