Repainting Instructions for Edson Pedestals

[Neil Raynor]

Good afternoon Nonsuchers.

Our Edson Pedestal is in serious need of a refinishing given the quite large swaths of bare aluminum on show: a piece part approach is not an option - it needs completely stripping and starting again.  

And while I'm an avid watcher of Sail Life on YouTube (thank you whoever recommended this site in one of these posts - it is truly amazing the practical information Mads packs into his videos -  I'm not about to do what he did, which is send his pedestal to the paint shop.  I'll be doing it in situ.  Time & dollars determine that approach.

So my question is: I've found the following instructions from Edson on how to go about refinishing the pedestal and I would welcome anyone who cares to share their thoughts on the best way to tackle this in situ: for instance - stick closely to the Edson parameters, or are there better practical approaches on the boat?  Any practical hints and tips gratefully received.

If it makes our southern cousins feel even better about their current situation (whatever that might be): today it snowed in Ottawa!  It didn't stay around but it snowed . . .  .

Cheers,

Neil Raynor

NS26C, #149

Kingston, ON

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EDSON: Improved Paint Repair System or Total Re-Coat

• Wipe down entire surface to be re-coated with Interlux #202 Solvent Wash to remove waxes and other contamination. Using a clean paper towel remove the solvent residue before it dries.

• Scrape or sand all damaged areas to remove loose coating.

• Sand bare aluminum to bright metal with medium grit emery paper making sure to feather in surrounding intact coating so as not to leave sharp edges.

• Sand all intact areas to be re-coated with 220 grit sandpaper.

• Wipe down area to be re-coated with Interlux #202 Solvent Wash to remove all sanding residue.

• Immediately apply 1 thin coat of Interlux #353/354 Viny-Lux Prime Wash thinned 25% with Interlux #355 Viny-Lux Solvent to all bare aluminum.

• After 1 hour and before 24 hours, apply 1 heavy coat of Interlux Epoxy Primekote #404/414 Epoxy Primer thinned 25% with Interlux Brushing Solvent #2333N, to bare areas.

• Sand Epoxy with 220 grit sand paper and wipe down with #2333N solvent to remove all sanding residue.

• Apply 1 full coat of Interlux Perfection White YHB000 (or Perfection color of choice) thinned as needed with #2333N Solvent per label instructions.

• Sand Perfection with 320 grit wet-or-dry sandpaper and wipe down with #2333N solvent to remove all sanding residue. 

Apply second full coat of Interlux Perfection White YHB000 thinned as needed with #2333N solvent per label instructions.

 

NOTE:The above system is designed to be applied over the original coating and not over single-component paint products.

 

• Perfection will provide the longest lasting system, however very satisfactory results can be achieved with Interlux "Brightside" single component polyurethane.

• Flattening agent is available for both Perfection and Brightside to lower gloss.

• Bedding down all attaching parts with Interlux Bedding Compound #214 will greatly improve the life of the coating system

[Joe Valinoti]

When I had to replace my shift cable several months ago, I removed the upper part that holds the two cable assemblies, sanded it, applied two coats of automotive primer and 3 coats of enamel paint.  So far, so good.

 

Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA

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[Thor Powell]

I would degrease and dewax with ammonia. The sand with 120 grit to remove loose paint , follow with 220 .  The scrub with a red pad and IPA.  Wipe clean with IPA on a cloth. 

Turpentine and similar solvents can leave residue that prevents adhesion IPA will not.  Bare metal needs to be well sanded to remove oxidation and blended into painted areas

Get some self etching spray primer and white spray paint at the local auto supply. Mask and use as directed. 

[Neil Raynor]

Thanks Joe.

[Neil Raynor]

Many thanks, Thor.  But the only "IPA" I know is the brew I first tasted in Halifax (courtesy of Keith's) and more latterly at a host of wonderful microbreweries across the continent - "India Pale Ale".  I can think of better things to do with that IPA than smear it on my pedestal, so what is your "IPA" - "improvised pseudo ale" - or something completely different?

Best regards to the Coast, Neil

[b berdan]

I had to remove my Edson pedestal to replace the bearings (replaced the steel bearings with stainless steel, and now I make sure the seal at the top is secure). I did something that I'm happy with now, but later on I will regret... powder coating.  I had done some car restoration work and it offered seductive perfection, but I don't look forward to chips and peels when it starts to look like a poorly maintained modern park bench that can't be touched up. My bad.

Brian & Susan Berdan

"Blue September" 1995 260 #7 (currently on the hard getting a beautiful new blue topsides PAINT job!)

Bainbridge Island, Washington

[Thor Powell]

IPA Isopropyl alcohol.. The stuff you have been spraying on your hands for the last two years 

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It is a good cleaner that leaves no residue to interfere with the bonding. You can have an IPA when you are done 

Cheers Thor 

[uksail...@gmail.com]

Excuse my ignorance but can it be shot blasted with a fine medium and powder coated with a marine quality coating?  Mine needs doing this coming winter and that was the plan I had.  Do I need to rethink it?

Sean Curran

Merlin of Mersea

BOSMBSC

Somerset

UK

[Julie & Lloyd on Rendezvous]

Over the winter of 2017-2018, we stripped the deck and painted, including the pedestal.  I took the pedestal totally off the boat so it could be sprayed in a booth which I built from plastic sheeting (and the paint shop is still using).  It is not hard to take off.  You will get a much better finish if you take it off the boat and decrease the chances for any oops in the cockpit that you will need to fix later.

My Awlgrip application guide from that period recommends an initial detergent surface cleaning - a powdered household cleanser and a Scotch-Brite pad.  You are going to sand it anyway, the cleanser and pad will not hurt the surface and you increase the chances of getting al of the nasty stuff off the pedestal.  When rinsing if all off, watch for breaks, holes and beading in the rinse water flow - that shows where you need to scrub more with the cleanser.

While I had the pedestal out, I painted the plate that it bolts to in the engine compartment - did mine in bright red - no one sees it but me, but it does compliment the engine color nicely.

lloyd herman

Rendezvous, 30U

Port Washington, NY