LOA for Nonsuch 324?

[Fred Hoyt]

Given that the Nonsuch 324 is built on the 30 ft. hull, it is curious that the LOA is reported as 32ft. 4in. The Nonsuch 30 (same hull) has an LOA of 30ft. 4in. Does this mean that the swim step overhang and the bow sprit & anchor are included in the 324 LOA? Must get the answer to this question since we can not go over 33.0 ft. to qualify for a 30 ft. slip in our marina. We were advised that the 324 would have to measure by their tape measure —anything above water— within 33ft. for a 30ft. slip. Anyone know?

[Langley Gace]

I have a 324 and get charged from stem to stern (bow pulpit to swim step) 37' 

Langley Gace

Moya #108.

Bainbridge Island, WA

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 2:14 PM Fred Hoyt <fwh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Given that the Nonsuch 324 is built on the 30 ft. hull, it is curious that the LOA is reported as 32ft. 4in. The Nonsuch 30 (same hull) has an LOA of 30ft. 4in. Does this mean that the swim step overhang and the bow sprit & anchor are included in the 324 LOA?  Must get the answer to this question since we can not go over 33.0 ft. to qualify for a 30 ft. slip in our marina. We were advised that the 324 would have to measure by their tape measure —anything above water— within 33ft. for a 30ft. slip.  Anyone know?

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[Mark Powers La Reina 26C Vancouver, B.C.]

Fred,

The 32’ 4” length includes the anchor roller. It would not include any anchor protruding beyond that. I don’t know if that measurement includes the boarding ladder. You might have to loosen the screws on the boarding ladder feet and swing them in to cut down the length a bit. 

The 30’ 4” for the thirty was length of the hull and did not take into account the bow roller. The early 30s did not have the tongue depressor style anchor  rollers and from the photos did not have any anchor rollers. The tongue depressors became pretty much standard by the time the 324 came along. So for sales purposes 324 distinguishes the new boat with the carbon mast from the older 30 and people are more willing to part with money for a 32’ boat than a 30’ boat. The same thought process was used with the 33s and 354s. I don’t know why the 260 was not called the 284. It’s like when you ask someone how long their boat is and they ask “Am I bragging of paying for moorage”

If I remember correctly Langley’s Moya has a swim platform which gets Moya to 37’. As Langley says most marinas are going to charge for the overall length of the boat including anything poking out of the bow or stern. Swim platforms, dinghy davits, anchor rollers and bow sprits get counted. Old cutters often had very long bow sprits. To cut mooring costs owners would modify the sprit so it could be raised at the dock. They could save several hundred dollars a year by doing that. For example at our marina we pay $14 per foot per month. A 5’ bowsprit adds $840 per year. The tongue depressor on La Reina would add about $420 except it forces me into a 30 foot slip so instead of pay for 28.5’ I get to pay for 30’. At our Marina we pay for the longer of the slip or the vessel. With out the anchor roller they would let me use a 25’ slip.

Mark Powers

[newelljc9]

RE: Anchor Roller

After a close call with a large French yacht that was too busy partying on the port tack and did not know to give way to me on the starboard during a race, I removed my anchor roller and anchor to give me an extra foot or two to maneuver  while reducing  undesirable weight over the bow.  I have not been able to go cruising so it served no purpose. Anyway, the roller is anchored by two bolts so it can be mounted in a jiffy if required. I stow the anchor in the starboard cockpit locker where it helps to balance the diesel fuel tank on the port side. Also, under some  racing rules carrying an anchor on the bow is not permitted since it can turn into a lethal battering ram

The "jolly" skipper apologized as I nipped around his stern and offered me a beer. I am waiting to receive the offer, but not holding my breath.

John Newell

Mascouche 26C 1

Toronto